P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Post Camera Raw feedback here

The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

• You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
• Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
• By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
• Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
• Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
• Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 
  
  Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 

• Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
• Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issue by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

1. Denoise 
2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image)
4. Global Edits
5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)
   
   If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

[photobyderek]

John, I will try that, it makes sense. Thank you for the response.

[default0j54qibpting]

It may have been said in this forum, but it needs saying again. This is an amazing feature in "Early Access" and many of us appreciate the opportunity to provide feedback. I for one am very confident that most of the challenges will get resolved, but it's not always going to be a simple task to produce the results we want. I for one want that challenge.

[gordonm67764613]

Hi. I have used this new feature with amazing results but today, no matter what I do I continue to get a dark outline of the area selected. It is one of the easiest objects I have tried to remove but for some reason not today. You can see the area selected outline infont of the bird's beak & I have tried to include the bird on the branch above too just to see ifthe outline will go away but it doesn't.

[johnrellis]

@gordonm67764613: "You can see the area selected outline infont of the bird's beak & I have tried to include the bird on the branch above too just to see ifthe outline will go away but it doesn't."

Do you have an AI mask (e.g. Background) applied to that area?  If so, then do Settings > Update AI Settings.

If not, there have been several reports here about the replacements not getting matched well with the background, leaving this kind of outline or difference in texture. Using a larger, more raggedy selection has avoided the the problem in the other examples: 

If this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the original unmodified photo.

[gordonm67764613]

Hi.



No I don't have a background mask there, I made sure to check for that
first.



Cheers

[Carlos.solor]

This actually has been great to use for small little details for me. Love the options its given so far and I cant wait to explore more with it. 

[Lucas38711514k2dq]

LEGAL

[Walney Muniz]

Está com um erro, estou tentando remover o objeto no lado direito, porém o pincel está removendo do lado oposto.

[Ian Lyons]

That's a known issue. You can read more at below link in Bugs forum

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-remove-brush-strokes-appear-in-the-wrong-pla...

[Walney Muniz]

Girar a imagem antes de usar o pincel de ajuste faz com que ele fique do lado oposto na hora de usar.

[Ian Lyons]

Duplicate post, and has already been answered with link to existing bug report also provided

[Jim330107399f5o]

It took me a few minutes to get used to this tool.  It did exactly what I wanted it to do.

[MaryEllyn22562693ti8v]

I had a great day yesterday using Generative AI.  I purposively took photos where I would have to remove objects but still wanted the background to look like it was in the scene.  My biggest success was removing a side of car parked near the river.  I was impressed with its removal and how the other bank that was covered up by the car looked like the car was never there.....Very, very impressive.

I took the advice of painting beyond the car and included all reflections and other artifacts.  I used Generative AI Remove in the start of my workflow.  

[davidr99294704]

Tried to remove a brick wall on the side of my image hoping it would be replaced by bushes that surrounded the selection...it just kept generating different brick walls in all shapes and sizes. 

[gordonm67764613]

Are you sure you didn't crop the image first? If you do, the AI will look
outside your crop to choose what to replace with. There is a popup box that
sort of suggests that you need to remove first before anything else.pretty
much.

[johnrellis]

@davidr99294704: "it just kept generating different brick walls in all shapes and sizes."

Most instances of Remove "replacing" instead of "removing" can be fixed by following the tips in this article:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to remove the desired objects.

[DTungate]

Overall this is working well for me.  I too sometimes get wierd results but I find that changing the brush area helps, and sometimes I'll accept the results then redo the remove.

Suggestions:

1. I don't know if it's somethingwith my settings but using my enter key will not accept the 1st Variation.  If I scroll through the Variations then my enter key will accept any version.

2. Being able to use the arrow keys to advance through the Variations would help with work flow.

Thanks!

[ImaRetiredTeacher]

Hello, 

I would love it if the shortcut to Increase/Decrease the size of the heal brush by the brackets had the bug removed:  it works only after it is adjusted at least once with the slider.

[gordonm67764613]

It's there, just scroll the wheel on your mouse up or down.

[ImaRetiredTeacher]

Thanks for the reply. I'm asking about using the [  ] on the keyboard to adjust the size of the brush.

[gordonm67764613]

Yes, I realized that but why use a finger or two when you already likely
have the mouse in hand?

[ImaRetiredTeacher]

I use a trackball and I prefer the keys...

[East End Steve]

I have generally found it to work well.

What I'm writing below may be overly descriptive but I'm hoping it will enable Adobe's developers to solve the problems I have been encountering.

Note that the photo I'm working on is my own, shot yesterday on a Nikon Z8, is the raw (NEF) image.  This particular image is a virtual LrC copy.  Note also that non-human objects have been erased effectively in earlier croppings of this image (although several tries are sometimes required to make images adjacent to the edge of the photo to entirely disappear.  I have also seen this type of behavior in inPixio's "Eraser" function, the only reason I have inPixio; I have been hoping this capability in LrC would make an inPixio subscription renewal unnecessary.).

However, on the image I'm currently editing, I am trying to erase a face that's in the photo with the main subject.  Then weirdness happens:  Instead of erasing the face, it inserts a face that isn't even in the photo.  I try it again and, instead of erasing the face, it inserts a random face that is not even in the photo or any photo I have ever taken, as far as I can recall.

Where are these faces coming from???

Here's the original before I attempt to erase the fellow on the lower left...

Here's the image with that fellow marked for erasure...

And after I hit the "Apply" button...

After I hit the "Refresh" button...

And again...

And again...

And so on...

So, for completeness, I'll tell you that I have:

- LrC 13-3

- Windows 10, the absolute latest update...

- A Powerspec G701 with an 8-core Ryzen 7 processor and 48GB of RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070, lots of swap space and storage

So, please tell me what's going on and how I can make this work correctly.  I'll be happy with workarounds, in order to get complete what I have to get done.

Also, do you have any idea who these other people are (are they even real?), and where they're being sourced for insertion into my image?

Thanks! 

[Corniger]

Note also that non-human objects have been erased effectively in earlier croppings of this image

By @East End Steve

Rules of engagement simplified:
No touching of the image prior to removal except denoising

[Ian Lyons]

Your screenshots indicate that you're trying to use Generative Remove on an image that has been cropped.  Generative Remove should be undertaken before crop is applied. You may may find below linked article helpful

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace