Performance Issues in Lightroom Classic

[Elkanan]

Dispite all the tune up and adjustments tips, Lightroom Classic, especially when also running Photoshop is performing dismally. 

After a few operations on several photos, LR stops responding to edits, or even stranger, shows the edit taking place filmstrip but NOT in the main panel when in Develop mode. The problem becomes more accute when attempting to edit larger files such as a panaroma. 

My Intel Windows 11 computer with 32gig of memory ran fine until the last few series of upgrades. The windows task manager shows LR is utilizing over 60% of memory.

The only solution to the problem is to shut LR and PS (if running) down and restart my computer. 

[Elkanan]

Notice I moved exposure to +4.47 but change is only reflected in the film strip below.

[Elkanan]

Here's what happens when I do a simple crop:

Close the crop "tool" and the action is reflected in the filmstrip but the photo in the Develope panal is not cropped. I will close LR and restart and the photo will be cropped as wanted.

[kglad]

in the future, to find the best place to post your message, use the list here, https://community.adobe.com/

p.s. i don't think the adobe website, and forums in particular, are easy to navigate, so don't spend a lot of time searching that forum list. do your best and we'll move the post (like this one has already been moved) if it helps you get responses.

<"moved from using the community bugs">

[Elkanan]

Thankyou !


--
<pi removed-kglad>

[kglad]

@Elkanan 

you're welcome.

p.s. don't reply by email, or remove your signature before sending.

[GoldingD]

Please post your System Information as Lightroom Classic (LrC) reports it. In LrC click on Help, then System Info, then Copy. Paste that information into a reply. Please present all information from first line down to and including Plug-in Info. Info after Plug-in info can be cut out as that is just so much dead space to us non-Techs and it takes up vast amounts of scroll space making the reply less readable and less likely that others will bother with your post.

[Elkanan]

Lightroom Classic version: 13.0.2 [ 202311290958-8ff975ea ]

License: Creative Cloud

Language setting: en

Operating system: Windows 11 - Home Premium Edition

Version: 11.0.22621

Application architecture: x64

System architecture: x64

Logical processor count: 16

Processor speed: 2.9GHz

SqLite Version: 3.36.0

CPU Utilisation: 0.0%

Built-in memory: 32631.3 MB

Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 133.8MB / 128.0MB (104%)

Real memory available to Lightroom: 32631.3 MB

Real memory used by Lightroom: 1652.2 MB (5.0%)

Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 1695.2 MB

GDI objects count: 847

USER objects count: 3083

Process handles count: 7528

Memory cache size: 243.2MB

Internal Camera Raw version: 16.0 [ 1677 ]

Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5

Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2

Camera Raw virtual memory: 66MB / 16315MB (0%)

Camera Raw real memory: 2MB / 32631MB (0%)

System DPI setting: 96 DPI

Desktop composition enabled: Yes

Standard Preview Size: 1920 pixels

Displays: 1) 1920x1080, 2) 1600x900

Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: Yes, External touch: No, External pen: Yes, Keyboard: No

Graphics Processor Info: 

DirectX: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (30.0.101.1273)

Init State: GPU for Display supported by default with custom image processing support

User Preference: Auto

Application folder: P:\Adobe Programs Installations\Adobe Lightroom Classic

Library Path: P:\Restored Catalogue\Lightroom Catalog-3-2-v10-v11\Lightroom Catalog-3-2-v10-v11-v12-v13.lrcat

Settings Folder: C:\Users\eavil\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom

Installed Plugins: 

1) AdobeStock

2) Flickr

3) Nikon Tether Plugin

Config.lua flags: None

Adapter #1: Vendor : 8086

Device : 9bc5

Subsystem : d0001458

Revision : 5

Video Memory : 128

Adapter #2: Vendor : 1414

Device : 8c

Subsystem : 0

Revision : 0

Video Memory : 0

AudioDeviceIOBlockSize: 1024

AudioDeviceName: $$$/dvaaudiodevice/SystemDefaultAndEffectiveDeviceName=System Default - Speakers (Realtek(R) Audio)#{comment}DVAAU-4201250: Open the audio hardware preferences page.

AudioDeviceNumberOfChannels: 2

AudioDeviceSampleRate: 48000

Build: Uninitialized

Direct2DEnabled: false

GL_ACCUM_ALPHA_BITS: 16

GL_ACCUM_BLUE_BITS: 16

GL_ACCUM_GREEN_BITS: 16

GL_ACCUM_RED_BITS: 16

GL_ALPHA_BITS: 8

GL_BLUE_BITS: 8

GL_DEPTH_BITS: 24

GL_GREEN_BITS: 8

GL_MAX_3D_TEXTURE_SIZE: 2048

GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 16384

GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS: 8

GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_DIMS: 16384,16384

GL_RED_BITS: 8

GL_RENDERER: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630

GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 4.60 - Build 30.0.101.1273

GL_STENCIL_BITS: 8

GL_VENDOR: Intel

GL_VERSION: 4.6.0 - Build 30.0.101.1273

GPUDeviceEnabled: false

OGLEnabled: true

GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1 GL_AMD_depth_clamp_separate GL_AMD_vertex_shader_layer GL_AMD_vertex_shader_viewport_index GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility GL_ARB_ES3_1_compatibility GL_ARB_ES3_compatibility GL_ARB_arrays_of_arrays GL_ARB_base_instance GL_ARB_bindless_texture GL_ARB_blend_func_extended GL_ARB_buffer_storage GL_ARB_cl_event GL_ARB_clear_buffer_object GL_ARB_clear_texture GL_ARB_clip_control GL_ARB_color_buffer_float GL_ARB_compatibility GL_ARB_compressed_texture_pixel_storage GL_ARB_compute_shader GL_ARB_conditional_render_inverted GL_ARB_conservative_depth GL_ARB_copy_buffer GL_ARB_copy_image GL_ARB_cull_distance GL_ARB_debug_output GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float GL_ARB_depth_clamp GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_derivative_control GL_ARB_direct_state_access GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_draw_buffers_blend GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex GL_ARB_draw_indirect GL_ARB_draw_instanced GL_ARB_enhanced_layouts GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location GL_ARB_explicit_uniform_location GL_ARB_fragment_coord_conventions GL_ARB_fragment_layer_viewport GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_fragment_shader_interlock GL_ARB_framebuffer_no_attachments GL_ARB_framebuffer_object GL_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB GL_ARB_geometry_shader4 GL_ARB_get_program_binary GL_ARB_get_texture_sub_image GL_ARB_gl_spirv GL_ARB_gpu_shader5 GL_ARB_gpu_shader_fp64 GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_ARB_half_float_vertex GL_ARB_indirect_parameters GL_ARB_instanced_arrays GL_ARB_internalformat_query GL_ARB_internalformat_query2 GL_ARB_invalidate_subdata GL_ARB_map_buffer_alignment GL_ARB_map_buffer_range GL_ARB_multi_bind GL_ARB_multi_draw_indirect GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_occlusion_query2 GL_ARB_pipeline_statistics_query GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_polygon_offset_clamp GL_ARB_post_depth_coverage GL_ARB_program_interface_query GL_ARB_provoking_vertex GL_ARB_query_buffer_object GL_ARB_robust_buffer_access_behavior GL_ARB_robustness GL_ARB_robustness_isolation GL_ARB_sample_shading GL_ARB_sampler_objects GL_ARB_seamless_cube_map GL_ARB_seamless_cubemap_per_texture GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects GL_ARB_shader_atomic_counter_ops GL_ARB_shader_atomic_counters GL_ARB_shader_bit_encoding GL_ARB_shader_draw_parameters GL_ARB_shader_group_vote GL_ARB_shader_image_load_store GL_ARB_shader_image_size GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shader_precision GL_ARB_shader_stencil_export GL_ARB_shader_storage_buffer_object GL_ARB_shader_subroutine GL_ARB_shader_texture_image_samples GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_shading_language_420pack GL_ARB_shading_language_packing GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_spirv_extensions GL_ARB_stencil_texturing GL_ARB_sync GL_ARB_tessellation_shader GL_ARB_texture_barrier GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object_rgb32 GL_ARB_texture_buffer_range GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_compression_bptc GL_ARB_texture_compression_rgtc GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_cube_map_array GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_ARB_texture_float GL_ARB_texture_gather GL_ARB_texture_mirror_clamp_to_edge GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_multisample GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_texture_query_levels GL_ARB_texture_query_lod GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_texture_rg GL_ARB_texture_rgb10_a2ui GL_ARB_texture_stencil8 GL_ARB_texture_storage GL_ARB_texture_storage_multisample GL_ARB_texture_swizzle GL_ARB_texture_view GL_ARB_timer_query GL_ARB_transform_feedback2 GL_ARB_transform_feedback3 GL_ARB_transform_feedback_instanced GL_ARB_transform_feedback_overflow_query GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra GL_ARB_vertex_array_object GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_64bit GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_binding GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_vertex_type_10f_11f_11f_rev GL_ARB_vertex_type_2_10_10_10_rev GL_ARB_viewport_array GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ATI_separate_stencil GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_direct_state_access GL_EXT_draw_buffers2 GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_geometry_shader4 GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters GL_EXT_gpu_shader4 GL_EXT_memory_object GL_EXT_memory_object_win32 GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil GL_EXT_packed_float GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_polygon_offset_clamp GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_semaphore GL_EXT_semaphore_win32 GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shader_framebuffer_fetch GL_EXT_shader_integer_mix GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_array GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_integer GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent GL_EXT_texture_snorm GL_EXT_texture_storage GL_EXT_texture_swizzle GL_EXT_timer_query GL_EXT_transform_feedback GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_INTEL_conservative_rasterization GL_INTEL_fragment_shader_ordering GL_INTEL_framebuffer_CMAA GL_INTEL_map_texture GL_INTEL_multi_rate_fragment_shader GL_INTEL_performance_query GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced_coherent GL_KHR_context_flush_control GL_KHR_debug GL_KHR_no_error GL_KHR_shader_subgroup GL_KHR_shader_subgroup_arithmetic GL_KHR_shader_subgroup_ballot GL_KHR_shader_subgroup_basic GL_KHR_shader_subgroup_clustered GL_KHR_shader_subgroup_quad GL_KHR_shader_subgroup_shuffle GL_KHR_shader_subgroup_shuffle_relative GL_KHR_shader_subgroup_vote GL_KHR_texture_compression_astc_hdr GL_KHR_texture_compression_astc_ldr GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_conditional_render GL_NV_primitive_restart GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_swap_control

[GoldingD]

Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 133.8MB / 128.0MB (104%)

Graphics Processor Info: 
DirectX: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (30.0.101.1273)
Init State: GPU for Display supported by default with custom image processing support
User Preference: Auto
 

So apparently an integrated graphics card, and as such no VRAM?

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-UHD-Graphics-630-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.257928.0.html

Does going into /preferences/performance/ and turning off use graphics processor help?

And you may want to consider:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-allow-users-to-disable-the-gpu-for-ai-maski...

hmm, that link leads you to:

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/acr-gpu-faq.html#lens-blur

also, some reference material:

Lightroom Classic GPU FAQ

Troubleshoot graphics processor (GPU) and graphics driver issues | Lightroom Classic

Lightroom Classic system requirements

[AxelMatt]

...

Graphics Processor Info: 

DirectX: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (30.0.101.1273)

...

Your graphic device is powerful enough to run LR and PS smoothly.

I would in a first step try to switch off the GPU support from the Lightroom preferences and check if that helps to fix the issue.

Go to Lightroom > Preferences > Performance tab > Uncheck "Use Graphics Processor" > Restart Lightroom.

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/troubleshoot-gpu.html

In the longer term you should update your computer with an more powerful graphic card. If you use a notebook, it will be difficult or impossible to upgrade it. The only option then is to purchase a new more powerful device.

[Elkanan]

I will be away from the machine for 1 month. Will try suggestions on my return. 

Sorry for the delay

[Elkanan]

After almost 2 months absence from this thread of problems I've been experiencing in LR Classic, I want to return to the issue.

I have changed the configuration of my computer. I have doubled the system memory from 32g to 64g. I have changed the "Camera Raw Cache Settings to 100g and placed it on a SSD drive. And I have added a GPU (MSI GeForce RTX 3060 VENTUS 2X OC Graphics) with 12g of memory.
Overall performace of the machine seems to be better but I'm not running benchmarks here. 

The problem of LR Classic correctly displaying an edited photo seems to still exist.

The following happened after exporting a photo to PS, changing the sky and saving.

Notice that the image appears correctly in the Filmstrip but not on the main screen or in the Navigator Window:

Sychronizing the folder does not fix the problem. Shutting LR down and restarting does fix the issue.

Suggestions please.

[GoldingD]

/edit/ see followup reply below first

1. Your latest screenshot shows up too small for review. And when you do share the larger image, can you include the Histogram. I like that you are showing the History panel (so many members show the presets instead, and normally of little value), and the Navigation panel (oddity's in Histogram and Navigation can indicate issues)
2. Can you list your steps starting in LrC just before the Edit in PS. stepping thru PS, then returning to LrC. Step by step. Screenshots might be helpful. An itemized list. (like this reply)
3. Can you share a screenshot of your current /preferences/Performance/

[GoldingD]

Aghhh, re-looking at that screenshot. Is that filmstrip thumbnail showing a stacked image? Are you looking at the correct image?

[Elkanan]

I'll work backwards from your request:

Here's LR, after my edits. 

From here, I do a right mouse click and "Edit In...."  Photoshop 2024. It goes to PS Beta. I'll then perform a sky replacement.

PS at Sky Replacement Step:

Photoshop just before "File, Save"

I feel like the patient that went to the dentist with a tooth ache. Of course, as soon as he sat in the chair, the pain went away. This time, the process did not fail. I performed the sky replacement, and just saved the results in PS. I saw in LR that everything worked as intended. Then I went back into to PS, Merged the Visible layers and saved as..... the resuts. That worked fine also.

This is strange. If my problem occurs again, I will come back to this thread. Any suggestions you might have for capturing useful diagnostic information is appreciated.