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Profile & Processing

Explorer ,
May 02, 2018 May 02, 2018

I shoot a Nikon D500 using the camera VIVID profile.  When I import into LR Classic, the thuumbnails initially look like AS SHOT, but then sequentially get very dark.  How do I prevent LR from applying its profile and processing.  Related question is how do I create an import profile that I can apply which will preserve my AS SHOT settings.

I am tired of resetting every image to the way I actually shot it; last weeken's 5k shoot became a nightmare to develop.

Thanks in advance

Neal

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LEGEND , May 04, 2018 May 04, 2018

Every camera has a set of default settings in Lightroom. Those settings, if not altered by the user (you) are determined by Adobe. In-camera settings are not recognized by Lightroom because every camera manufacturer creates their own raw format and they store their settings differently. Consequently, Lightroom is programmed to ignore all those settings. If you are using the latest version of Lightroom Classic CC, the default profile is now Adobe Color if you have not altered your default setting

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Community Expert ,
May 02, 2018 May 02, 2018

If you shoot NEF(RAW), the camera style is applied to the embedded preview only. As expected, the raw image data are not manipulated in the camera.

Upon import you first see this embedded jpg until LR has rendered its own preview from the RAW data. You can apply a different camera style profile for new imports - there even are similar camera styles available to simulate the ones available in the camera.

Since this has changed in the latest LR release we need to know your exact (numbers, not latest or alike) version of LR for to give you the correct answer.

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Community Expert ,
May 03, 2018 May 03, 2018

If the previews get very dark when Lightroom renders them, then most likely you apply a preset on import that darkens the image, or you have changed the camera defaults by mistake. So first check in the import dialog that you don’t apply a develop preset on import. If not, check the sliders in the develop module of a freshly imported image. Are they not all at zero? Then you must have changed the camera default settings. Press the ‘Reset’ button while holding the shift-key, so it becomes ‘Reset (Adobe)’. If that corrects the image and you did not apply a preset on import, then that proves that your default settings were the culprit. Press the button again while holding the alt/option-key to update these settings.

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Explorer ,
May 03, 2018 May 03, 2018

A LR update occurred overnight. The version on my Surface now is 7.3.1 w// Camera Raw 10.3.

Thank you for help on this

Neal

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Community Expert ,
May 03, 2018 May 03, 2018

chemsaf  wrote

A LR update occurred overnight.  The version on my Surface now is 7.3.1 w// Camera Raw 10.3.

OK, but did that update solve the problem?

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Explorer ,
May 03, 2018 May 03, 2018

I need some time to test this. Will do so over the next few days and advise

Thank all for input

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Explorer ,
May 04, 2018 May 04, 2018

Thank you all for the help, but I am still having the problem. I am using LR Classic CC

I have set up a test bed of 10 NEF files to try various profile/treatment options on.

In the import menu, under APPLY DURING IMPORT, I set the profile to NONE, VIVID and NATURAL.  Each showed the same behavior after importing, as the progress bar (upper left) advanced, each thumbnail became several stops darker.

How to I modify the treatment.  I shoot w/ Nikon VIVID.

I am really stuck.

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LEGEND ,
May 04, 2018 May 04, 2018

It doesn't matter what you shoot with because Lightroom isn't going to read that setting from the camera. If you shoot with Nikon Vivid, and that is the profile that you want applied when the images are imported, then you need to change your camera defaults accordingly.

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Explorer ,
May 04, 2018 May 04, 2018

Please provide a bit more explanation. Camera defaults on the camera or in LR?

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LEGEND ,
May 04, 2018 May 04, 2018

Every camera has a set of default settings in Lightroom. Those settings, if not altered by the user (you) are determined by Adobe. In-camera settings are not recognized by Lightroom because every camera manufacturer creates their own raw format and they store their settings differently. Consequently, Lightroom is programmed to ignore all those settings. If you are using the latest version of Lightroom Classic CC, the default profile is now Adobe Color if you have not altered your default settings. To change your default camera settings in Lightroom, modify one of your newly imported raw files to reflect the settings you want when it is first Imported. It's best to use an image that closely resembles your typical image. When you are satisfied that this is what you want a freshly imported image to look like, you can then save new camera defaults. Those settings will then be applied when new images are imported. Those settings can include the camera profile as well as any other settings that you desire. When you have the image set the way you want your defaults to be, you can hold the Alt key on Windows (and whatever that equipment is on Mac) and the reset button will change to "Set Default", and those settings will then become the default settings for your camera when you import or reset images.

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Explorer ,
May 04, 2018 May 04, 2018
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With the help of the forum, I actually got very close to Jim  Hess' instructions.  I think I now know how to proceed on this.

Thank you all for great help.  I will mark Jim's last reply "Correct Answer"

Neal

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Community Expert ,
May 03, 2018 May 03, 2018

OK, so then you are on the latest release.

Read here about the profiles: April Lightroom and Adobe Camera Raw Releases: New Profiles and More | Adobe Blog

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