render in lightroom?

[djmattyz]

is there a way to render the photo in lightroom without having to edit in photoshop?

[john beardsworth]

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[djmattyz]

i was hoping for a less  "long winded" option 

it seems that lightroom will give me the option to render in lightroom when photoshop is not up to date but otherwise it doesnt.

[Bob Somrak]

I would have gave you the same answer as John because you said "without having to edit in photoshop". 

If Lr/Ps are in sync (both have same camera raw version) then it is automatically rendered in Lightroom before sending to Photoshop so the dialog is not necessary.

[JohanElzenga]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Bob+Somrak  wrote

If Lr/Ps are in sync (both have same camera raw version) then it is automatically rendered in Lightroom before sending to Photoshop so the dialog is not necessary.

Technically that is not true. What happens is that Lightroom tells Photoshop to open the raw image with Lightroom settings (using ACR), but the ACR dialog is not shown. That may sound the same, but it is not. If Lightroom would render the image and send it to Photoshop, then the image would already be saved in Lightroom before it arrives in Photoshop. If you then decide to cancel the Photoshop work, the image would still be in Lightroom, so you would have to delete it manually. That is what happens when you do have a version mismatch. Because Lightroom does not render the image when the versions do match, a cancel in Photoshop means there is no image in Lightroom that needs to be deleted.

That is also why you can get a version mismatch error in the first place. If Lightroom would always render the image, then the version of ACR would be irrelevant.

[GoldingD]

Adding on to that, if you want PS to check for and inquire if  the profiles do not match, you need to change a default setting for Color Settings (in PS) for Profile Mismatch, to ask when opening. Otherwise PS knows better and just goers and uses is current color space settings.

[Bob Somrak]

Thanks for the clarification JohanEl54​

[richardplondon]

LR's "Edit In.." function does "Render in LR" unless a PS / ACR version is detected, of the same generation as (or newer than) LR, So that may be an older PS / ACR, or it may a third party application altogether (not Photoshop).

The render-in-ACR option becomes default when LR knows that all its instructions can be reliably implemented by ACR. This allows some additional options to be activated: "As Layers" or Pano or HDR within PS for multiple images, "As Smart Object" for a single image.

If you want, you can nonetheless still force the "Render in LR" behaviour:

find PS as an 'additional editor', then make a named external editing preset referring to that, which will thereafter show up in the Edit In... menu. Variant presets can be saved which implement different file types / colour spaces / bit depths: the resulting files will have been already pre-saved before they are ever seen in PS.

You can do this even when the standard Ctrl+E / Cmd+E method would otherwise result in an ACR-rendered image.

[JohanElzenga]

djmattyz  wrote

i was hoping for a less  "long winded" option 

it seems that lightroom will give me the option to render in lightroom when photoshop is not up to date but otherwise it doesnt.

Why would you want to do that if both are up to date?

[djmattyz]

@Johan El54  

i want to do it, because , i like to apply a color grade, and then save it to the image, and apply another color grade on top.

I find that it gives very nice results when i do this.

but when im editing hundreds of images, (i have edited around 1000 photos today)  it would be great to be able to do this at minimal clicking. it would be nice to have an option to right click and choose "render in lightroom" option.

[JohanElzenga]

djmattyz  wrote

@Johan El54  

i want to do it, because , i like to apply a color grade, and then save it to the image, and apply another color grade on top.

I find that it gives very nice results when i do this.

but when im editing hundreds of images, (i have edited around 1000 photos today)  it would be great to be able to do this at minimal clicking. it would be nice to have an option to right click and choose "render in lightroom" option.

I don't think you understand what 'rendering' means. Rendering is turning the raw image into a tiff/psd image. That always happens when you send a raw image from Lightroom to Photoshop. The only question is which application carries this out, but that is irrelevant for your work.

[djmattyz]

I do understand what it means, david.

it matters to me what program does it, because it adds to the mouse clicks, when editing 1000 images per day.

as i understand it, you have to then go over to photoshop and click "save" before you can go back to apply the next edits in lightroom. a lot of jumping around.

[JohanElzenga · Accepted solution]

djmattyz  wrote

I do understand what it means, david.

it matters to me what program does it, because it adds to the mouse clicks, when editing 1000 images per day.

as i understand it, you have to then go over to photoshop and click "save" before you can go back to apply the next edits in lightroom. a lot of jumping around.

Even if Lightroom would render the image you'd still have to save the image in Photoshop if you made edits in Photoshop. Otherwise these edits will be lost. Or do you want to render a tiff without doing anything in Photoshop at all (you just use that menu to render the image)? That is indeed not possible. You either have to use the Photoshop route or export.

[GoldingD]

By "rendering" are you referring to converting the RAW into a Raster format???

Or what?

[GoldingD]

OK, clearly we are all on a disconnect. lets start over.

What are you trying to accomplish? What is your goal?

Something like:

I need save the files to TIFF as to share on the web

I need to share as TIFF to send to a collegue

I need to remove irritating items in the photos, and I want to use content aware fill to do it

I could go on with imaginary examples, but then the last one is pretty much the only reason I go into PS from LR.

[djmattyz]

David, all i want to do is save the lightroom edits i have made to an image, in effect, make a copy of it that has those changes rendered into it, and then start again from zero, and apply new edits to it

exactly the same as if i had sent it to photoshop, but did nothing with it in photoshop, saved it. and then conitnued to edit it in lightroom.

[GoldingD]

Cool. a couple of options, none involving Photoshop, sounds like number 1 is what you want.

1. Make virtual copies, leave the initial image alone, work on the virtual copy. In the virtual copy, you can set it back to zeroed, you can edit it differently, you can accomplish anything you want. No PS involved, and you can keep various non destructive edit sets.

2. If you are willing to save a copy of your original image with the edits, and then revert your original to its original status before editing as to start all over, then export the edited original image. You can export as a DNG, a TIFF, a PSD (but why) or a JPEG, recommend TIFF. The exported image will have all your edits baked into it. No reason to ever go near Photoshop. You can do this in mass.