P: Virtual Copy Functionality in Quick Collection places copy in an unexpected location

[gofishgobust]

Suggestion for Improved Virtual Copy Functionality in Quick Collection

I’ve noticed that when creating virtual copies within Quick Collection, the virtual copy automatically jumps to the beginning of the collection. This disrupts the workflow, especially when working with a large series of images. It would be much more efficient if virtual copies remained next to the original file, consistent with the behavior in Collections, Smart Collections, and regular folders.

Thank you for considering this improvement.

[dj_paige]

You need to sort the photos in the Quick Collection. Use the menu command View->Sort. Probably you want to sort by capture time, or by file name.

[gofishgobust]

While I am aware of the View -> Sort menu options, sorting by capture time or file name does not meet my needs. Maintaining a custom order of images is crucial for my workflow.

[gofishgobust]

While I am aware of the ‘View -> Sort’ menu options, sorting by capture time or file name does not meet my needs. Maintaining a custom order of images is crucial for my workflow.

[richardplondon]

Custom means it is up to you to move images into the order you intend. And another user will have different ideas on what order is desirable AND on how newly added images should show. How could LrC know what is in each user's mind?

[gofishgobust]

Maintaining a custom order of images is essential for my workflow. While I’m not expecting Lightroom Classic to anticipate my needs, I am requesting a way for virtual copies to remain next to the original file when created.

[richardplondon]

I do understand. Someone else may not want their carefully curated sequence to be intruded into by newly made virtual copies, and may think it completely appropriate to cluster those new copies at the end initially by default. Do you want this new image before or after its original, and what is considered the original? Say the photo's master instance is not a member in the collection, but two different virtual instances from the same file are; which one of those should it then go next to, and should that be before or after? Questions raising more questions.

I am not being difficult for the sake of it, truly: I have a wider point. Sometimes even perfectly sensible and productive ideas (which this is of course, withiin the bounds of the specific use case you mention) simply cannot be reconciled neatly and consistently into LrC's general paradigm - given that this paradigm has to cover a much broader range of possibility including use cases under which the opposite of this idea might be desirable.

Very often, AFAICT, the decision will come down to: what will make the least number of people more frustrated - rather than, what will make the most interested people more satisfied.

[Ian Lyons]

@gofishgobust 

I've moved the thread to the 'Ideas' forum. I also suggest that you Upvote your idea.

[gofishgobust]

To accommodate different preferences, an option could be introduced allowing users to choose whether virtual copies remain next to the original file. For those of us who prefer this functionality, it would greatly enhance workflow efficiency.

Currently, Lightroom Classic not only places virtual copies at the beginning of the collection but also redirects the user’s attention to the virtual copy. This is highly disruptive, especially when working with a large series of images, as it forces manual repositioning and interrupts the workflow. Ideally, virtual copies should be sequenced directly after the copied version, regardless of whether the original is a master file or a virtual copy.

Thank you for considering this suggestion.

[gofishgobust]

Suggestion for Improved Virtual Copy Functionality in Quick Collection

I’ve noticed that when creating virtual copies within Quick Collection, the virtual copy automatically jumps to the beginning of the collection. This disrupts the workflow, especially when working with a large series of images. It would be much more efficient if virtual copies remained next to the original file, consistent with the behavior in Collections, Smart Collections, and regular folders.

While I am aware of the View -> Sort menu options, sorting by capture time or file name does not meet my needs. Maintaining a custom order of images is crucial for my workflow. While I’m not expecting Lightroom Classic to anticipate my needs, I am requesting a way for virtual copies to remain next to the original file when created.

To accommodate different preferences, an option could be introduced allowing users to choose whether virtual copies remain next to the original file. For those of us who prefer this functionality, it would greatly enhance workflow efficiency.

Currently, Lightroom Classic not only places virtual copies at the beginning of the collection but also redirects the user’s attention to the virtual copy. This is highly disruptive, especially when working with a large series of images, as it forces manual repositioning and interrupts the workflow. Ideally, virtual copies should be sequenced directly after the copied version, regardless of whether the original is a master file or a virtual copy.

Thank you for considering this improvement.

[gofishgobust]

I’ve noticed that I’m unable to upvote my own comments, though I can upvote others' replies. Would you be able to upvote my suggestion on my behalf?

[Ian Lyons]

You seem to have posted the same or near same thing mutiple times. Nevertheless, I've upvoted your original post for you.