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Why does the color and or tone of my image change after import?

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Q - Why does the color and/or tone of my image change after import?

Response courtesy of Jeff Schewe:

A - When you import into Lightroom the first thumbnails you will see appear
are the embedded thumbnails in your images. In the case of raw files, the
thumbnails are automatically generated by your camera but based only on your
camera's settings, not Lightroom's default settings for your camera.

After importing and depending on Preview settings (whether you chose to
generate "full-sized" preview upon import), Lightroom will generate a thumbnail and
preview based upon Lightrooms default settings for your camera-unless you
also chose to import while applying a Develop preset.

Why don't they match? Because cameras processed thumbnails are based upon
the camera company's defaults, and the odds are that the Lightroom
interpretation of the same image data will be different.

Which is correct? Technically, in the case of a raw file, there is no
"correct" answer. Raw files need to be rendered.

One of the advantages of shooting raw is that the resulting raw capture is
open to various renderings without any destruction to the original
data-meaning you can change and alter the image to make it look the way YOU
want.

If you are constantly altering the settings for images a certain way, it may
be that you should create a Develop preset so you can automatically apply
that when you import. Adjusting the general settings such as Brightness and
Contrast or Saturation or Vibrance or in the Calibrate panel, (the way in
which colors are rendered) can be saved as a user named setting that you can
apply when importing image from your camera.

It should be noted however, that image or scene specific settings may still
need to be applied image by image.

Note: above discussion also applies to images shot with B&W settings in camera.

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Correct answer by D Fosse | Adobe Community Professional

CRJ1001  wrote

This is totally wrong, too much explanation but not straight to the point. LOL sorry but you only need to look at the "profile" select Adobe Neutral. it will give you a raw uncooked image.

No, you misunderstand. There is no "raw uncooked image" - at least not one that you ever see. If you could see a raw file directly, it would be a black-and-white image, very dark, very dull and very tonally compressed. You wouldn't like it, trust me.

A raw file always needs processing to produce a useful image. The various profiles just represent different ways to process - or rather, different starting points for the processing. Adobe Neutral is no more "correct" than any of the other profiles. But if you like it, by all means.

And to answer the original question, the initial preview is just the camera-processed jpeg. It gets replaced by the Lightroom rendering that happens to be set as default settings.

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Why does the color and or tone of my image change after import?

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Q - Why does the color and/or tone of my image change after import?

Response courtesy of Jeff Schewe:

A - When you import into Lightroom the first thumbnails you will see appear
are the embedded thumbnails in your images. In the case of raw files, the
thumbnails are automatically generated by your camera but based only on your
camera's settings, not Lightroom's default settings for your camera.

After importing and depending on Preview settings (whether you chose to
generate "full-sized" preview upon import), Lightroom will generate a thumbnail and
preview based upon Lightrooms default settings for your camera-unless you
also chose to import while applying a Develop preset.

Why don't they match? Because cameras processed thumbnails are based upon
the camera company's defaults, and the odds are that the Lightroom
interpretation of the same image data will be different.

Which is correct? Technically, in the case of a raw file, there is no
"correct" answer. Raw files need to be rendered.

One of the advantages of shooting raw is that the resulting raw capture is
open to various renderings without any destruction to the original
data-meaning you can change and alter the image to make it look the way YOU
want.

If you are constantly altering the settings for images a certain way, it may
be that you should create a Develop preset so you can automatically apply
that when you import. Adjusting the general settings such as Brightness and
Contrast or Saturation or Vibrance or in the Calibrate panel, (the way in
which colors are rendered) can be saved as a user named setting that you can
apply when importing image from your camera.

It should be noted however, that image or scene specific settings may still
need to be applied image by image.

Note: above discussion also applies to images shot with B&W settings in camera.

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Correct answer by D Fosse | Adobe Community Professional

CRJ1001  wrote

This is totally wrong, too much explanation but not straight to the point. LOL sorry but you only need to look at the "profile" select Adobe Neutral. it will give you a raw uncooked image.

No, you misunderstand. There is no "raw uncooked image" - at least not one that you ever see. If you could see a raw file directly, it would be a black-and-white image, very dark, very dull and very tonally compressed. You wouldn't like it, trust me.

A raw file always needs processing to produce a useful image. The various profiles just represent different ways to process - or rather, different starting points for the processing. Adobe Neutral is no more "correct" than any of the other profiles. But if you like it, by all means.

And to answer the original question, the initial preview is just the camera-processed jpeg. It gets replaced by the Lightroom rendering that happens to be set as default settings.

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This is totally wrong, too much explanation but not straight to the point. LOL sorry but you only need to look at the "profile" select Adobe Neutral. it will give you a raw uncooked image. If you don't see the neutral option. click on "Browse and mark a star on Neutral and back out the previous screen, than do the same for the rest of your photos. Voila, enjoy your true color tone.Screen Shot 2018-09-03 at 2.52.51 AM.png

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CRJ1001  wrote

This is totally wrong, too much explanation but not straight to the point. LOL sorry but you only need to look at the "profile" select Adobe Neutral. it will give you a raw uncooked image.

No, you misunderstand. There is no "raw uncooked image" - at least not one that you ever see. If you could see a raw file directly, it would be a black-and-white image, very dark, very dull and very tonally compressed. You wouldn't like it, trust me.

A raw file always needs processing to produce a useful image. The various profiles just represent different ways to process - or rather, different starting points for the processing. Adobe Neutral is no more "correct" than any of the other profiles. But if you like it, by all means.

And to answer the original question, the initial preview is just the camera-processed jpeg. It gets replaced by the Lightroom rendering that happens to be set as default settings.

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/D+Fosse  wrote

CRJ1001   wrote

This is totally wrong, too much explanation but not straight to the point. LOL sorry but you only need to look at the "profile" select Adobe Neutral. it will give you a raw uncooked image.

No, you misunderstand.

He sure did! What Jeff wrote is absolutely correct. And you're correct too of course. For CRJ1001, this is one rendering of what raw data can appear like and it's nothing like what we see at any time in LR/ACR:

raw.jpg

LR/ACR and very, very few products (the above being an exception, RawDigger being another) provide unbaked raw appearance.

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When I imported my photos which I shot on SLog on the A73, a look was added to them (darks crushed, high saturation), but my develop sliders had no change to them. I found I could change the look that was applied to them by changing the Camera Raw Default and then reimporting them into Lightroom, but it still changed my sliders. Is there any way to prevent Lightroom from applying the Camera Raw Default to my photos upon import???

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askrause22  wrote

Is there any way to prevent Lightroom from applying the Camera Raw Default to my photos upon import???

You can setup any custom defaults you desire from existing user repsets, multiple ones that you can select for a specific import need.

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Lightroom has to apply some defaults - the parameters can't be "undecided".

The camera settings have no relevance to the raw file itself. That's camera processing.

The raw file is just a straight data dump from the sensor, nothing more, nothing less. Andrew showed you what that data dump (the raw file) looks like.

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And thanks for posting those, Andrew. I've tried to simulate what a raw file looks like, in some other threads, but I see I didn't go far enough...

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Can you try getting to the Develop tab and pressing Reset on rock bottom right, or ensuring that the sliders within the Basic section are geared up to zero?

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