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trashcaneron
Inspiring
March 7, 2019
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Compressed Codec with Alpha

  • March 7, 2019
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Trying to remember what all the different compressed codecs that support "proper" alpha (I.e., alpha is baked in, not a double up separated alpha channel) and are supported in AME.

If memory serves me:

PNG+A image sequence

TIFF+A image sequence

APR 4444+A 16 bits

HAP+Alpha Releases · Vidvox/hap-qt-codec · GitHub

Apple Animation 8 bits

I am looking for a codec that is compressed but isn't as clunky as HAP+Alpha.

I remember reading something about HEVC / h265 supporting alpha but I'm not finding documentation on that anywhere.

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Warren Heaton
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Community Expert
March 8, 2019

You could do a PSD image sequence.

No support for it with HEVC: High Efficiency Video Coding - Wikipedia

imeilfx
Inspiring
March 8, 2019

PNG, TIFF or OpenEXR also have Alpha

trashcaneron
Inspiring
March 8, 2019

Re: Hap Alpha - just noting that the Hap Codec isn't natively supported anymore, you have to buy a license for AfterCodecs:

https://aescripts.com/aftercodecs/

Seems to work great, though I have some questions about bitrate and will post the results here.

I recommend the AME license because it will allow you to export from either AE, PR, or AME. Native AfterCodecs support in AE and PR is 2x more licenses. Would speed up rendering a hair... but another $95 x 2? Nah. I'm good.

Re: HEVC (the most unfortunately named codec) - You're right. There's some convolution between WebM + VP9 + H265. WebM does support alpha channels using fnordware's WebM codec for Adobe: https://www.fnordware.com/WebM/ but WebM hangs up on the conversion during the last 5% in the latest version of the codec. The file is retained to the hang up point but has issues running in AE.

For those trying to loose weight, my control file is 2048x2048, APR 4444+A, 2.93 GBs

Same file using HAP+A and AfterCodecs, 1.1 GBs (fast conversion, file size about 33% of control file)

Same file using WebM+A and Fnordware (there is a bug here, see above), 413 MBs (very slow conversion, file size about 3% of control file)

Same file using OpenEXR+A, 5.5 GBs (fast conversion, files size about 200% of control file)

Image sequences are going to be huge, but convert quickly, I do this all the time so not going to run a test

As far as USING those files in AE:

HAP+A works great

Image sequences work great

APR 4444+A works great