@Peter Villevoye. No one in this forum is harassing Preran, but the fact that Adobe is committing only one employee after sacking Muse to cope with such an avalanche of serious complaints, really doesn't reflect well on their client relationship capabilities of a publicly traded company.
The fact that they are now unleashing ACPs doesn't improve the situation at all. The fact that SStuart48 is brand marking all our serious concerns as "pussy footings" in the wake of your introductory remarks will only help to infuriate the situation.
Go back and read all the comments, analyze them and offer real solutions if you want to be of any help. Regurgitating past ACP remarks is not very helpful. We have heard these comments too many times (Muse will keep on working, Open-Source No, bad alternatives, learn code, be flexible, charge clients, don't be such a pu...y aso). They all miss the point. We have a massive migration issue of old sites.
You mention that Muse is dead and won't return, because in your opinion one specific feature failed (eg. responsiveness). Since when do you throw away a car when a tire pops? Muse is much bigger than any one of its single features. The fact the response in recent days has been that huge, leaves me wondering if Adobe didn't seriously underestimated their apps popularity.
Muse will return! Adobe cannot afford to ignore us. Maybe we will not see a full-fledged comeback, but I am hopeful we will see some real help for our migration issues implemented, probably in a way that will make an orderly transition possible.
You seem to be coming from a corporate angle, most people voicing their concerns here are not living in your world. Muse can deliver form and code. So yes, it is a real tool for us. XD can deliver an empty shell. How's that an improvement to us? If anything, it is a step backwards. Your suggestion just tells me that you do not understand how smaller business work. They thrive on the fact that tools are multifunctional. XD is not. If I need to team up with others because my tools where downgraded, how is that a benefit? I don't quite see the point. If anything, it makes things more complicated. But the again, it all depends on the kind of business model your working in.
Spark is geared towards our clients directly, not at web developers in-between. Spark also doesn't qualify, as it does not offer the features we need. I know code myself and have been working with Dreamweaver when it was still a Macromedia product. Performing complex Server-Side scripting and database driven applications is always a possibility but it takes time. It makes sense for larger projects, but not for smaller ones. And why should I reinvent the wheel for repetitive tasks?
Muse is cool because it can bridge the gap between design tools that were too simple and heavy database connectivity. For many designers a mailer form was all they needed. That said, I am personally not so much concerned about learning a new way of implementing my projects. I have done Netobjects Fusion, MS Frontpage, Macromedia, Muse, Wordpress. You name it.
But I still need to migrate my old Muse sites, and those costs will be very high. The only viable solution is one that will help us and myself migrate old clients' sites to CMS in the most efficient way possible with as little relearning as possible. Otherwise we are confronted with two issues. Researching and Relearning new software and acquiring the know-how for porting old sites. These two issues are not necessarily the same thing. In-Browser-Editing to CMS makes the whole thing more complex. No one really knows for sure how IBE will pan out, after Adobe's last announcement. There is a lack of trust now. I would really appreciate a "factory refurbished" Muse that can export to Wordpress (template & code) or something of the like.
Regarding your stock market assessment: I am by no means a market expert, but I honestly do not believe that the cloud has existed long enough to say where it will take us, nor if it will be successful in the long run. Or will prove to be a real benefit to humanity. I know that investors are hailing it as the holy grail of Information Technology, but many of their predictions have left the markets in dire straits before.
What I can see in talking to many people and observing opinion leaders, is a rising distaste against cloud-based services tracking us wherever we go. Zuckerberg is on his way to congress to explain himself for serious data breaches. Apple has just suffered a legal blow and PR nightmare because they used cloud-based technologies to slow down our phones. Regulation is on the horizon, because no one in the broader populace wants that much power handed over to corporations. Ultimately, Congress will not be able to ignore these concerns, which are shared by so many voters. Regulation is coming, maybe more subtlety in the US and maybe harder in Europe.
Adobe's technologies rely heavily on a deregulated information space. Therefore I do not share the optimism regarding the direction Adobe is moving in. I still see some real risks involved: Betting too much on one horse too soon has brought down giants before. Keeping some sort of diversification within their portfolio will not hurt Adobe financially, but it will help sustain their positive image as a creative company and will also help to keep a footing within their traditional clientele, should things turn out too airy in the cloud.
I also do not share your optimism regarding Adobe stocks. They have dropped a bit and are looking very good short term, I agree. But there are still many reasons that Adobe Stocks could suffer a downgrade in the coming weeks, the reasons being complex. And Muse could be a part of it; maybe not directly, but it does tell Investors that Adobe is putting down all their cards on one (still risky) horse going forward and they might be thinning out their diversification strategies too soon. Regulation can be a real show stopper for cloud technologies. The regulation saga is still brewing in the cooker as we speak. If Adobe stocks downgrade, it will have implication for the bigger market, as Adobe is considered the king of the cloud and no doubt an industry leader.
I am not an Adobe evangelist nor claiming to be a market prophet. I am also not dependent on any company's kudo points, so I can say and express my opinion how I see fit. I hope we are not faced with any intimidation in this forum in an attempts to quench our complaints and concerns. I am open to any solutions offered to us, but they have to address the real issues which are of concern.
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