How to turn off "Font Class" in Character > Font drop down menu

[ZerinaAkula]

Just began working in the latest version of Photoshop (25.7.0) and when I click in either the ribbon font list or in the character panel font list, there's a left rail of font classes. I can't find the option to turn that font class list off. It takes up way too much space on my screen and I don't need it. Please tell me there's an option to turn it off. Also, it's not in dark mode, which is problematic as well. 

Using a Mac version of Photoshop.

[Lumigraphics]

This is the new font browser and it doesn't look like it can be turned off.

[hietommy]

最近Photoshopの文字パネルのフォントリストがリニューアルされましたが、非常に使いづらいです。

左側の分類の部分が場所を取りすぎて邪魔です。

分類の部分ってあまり使わないので、前のようにコンパクトなプルダウンリストに戻して欲しいです。

特にmacbook proなどで作業しているときに、場所を取りすぎてコンテンツが隠れてしまい作業しづらくなりました。

改善フォームのようなものが見当たらなかったのでこちらに初めて投稿しました。

Adobe社員の方、ご確認お願いいたします。

[hietommy]

Translation doesn't work well.
pluda yes list → pull-down list

[Pete.Green]

Hi @ZerinaAkula and @hietommy ,

Thanks for the feedback on the Font browser! This is something that we're looking at improving by adding the ability to collapse/expand the classes/tags filters on the left. 

One question, when collapsed/hidden, would you expect the font browser to have a smaller width?

I can almost assume that from @hietommy 's request for a "more compact" version, and @ZerinaAkula suggesting it's taking too much space. Just looking to confirm this is what you're after. 

Regards,

Pete

[Lumigraphics]

-I always liked having the traditional font list in the Type menu, wasn't that a feature way back when?

-Font classes might be useful but there is little standardization in the font world. So a user has to click through the categories anyway.

-Ability to hide typefaces (all the Apple Noto fonts!) would be nice.

-How about making the Font Browser persistent? Similar to the Apple font browser.

-Watch the menu drawing. On the Mac, the style menu in the Options bar draws over the system menu bar.

-Clear All button should be disabled if no filters are enabled and there is nothing to clear.

-Put text labels next to the filter buttons. There is plenty of room.

-If you are going to use stars for favorites, at least make them the same shape. The star button and the fav button next to each font name are different shapes. Picky yes, sloppy also yes.

-Since when is underlining a way to indicate a selected option? Your fonts/More fonts is fine but maybe a tabbed UI or radio buttons? What do platform UI guidelines say?

-Mixing definitions in the font type symbol. You have O for OpenType, TT for TrueType, and the CC symbol for... cloud fonts? I get the intent but ints inconsistent.

-Most of the Noto fonts (Sonoma 14.6.1) render in the Font Browser with the little boxes or just blank.

-A few fonts (mostly ornaments and emoji) cut off glyph rendering at the edge of the browser (next to the scroll bar)

-It would be nice to have configurable glyphs instead of just "sample"

-Style is shown is there is only one variation but not if there are multiple variations (Apple Chancery Chancery and Austin Pen Regular, for example) but then the Option bar menus show "Apple Chancery" for face and "Chancery" for style

Sorry for the stream of consciousness post, I was just looking at the browser and writing things as fast as I saw them. I think the overall gist is that the feature needs some polish and refinement.

[Pete.Green]

Great feedback @Lumigraphics !

Can you say more about what you mean by "traditional font list" in your first bullet?

"Watch the menu drawing. On the Mac, the style menu in the Options bar draws over the system menu bar."

Do you have a screenshot of this happening? I wasn't able to reproduce this. 

Many of your other comments are great as well and I won't respond to all of them here, but we're looking at them as a team, and appreciate your write up. We have some more updates and polish coming in the next few months, so stay tuned. Would love to hear more of your feedback as some of those changes are released. 

Regards,

Pete

[Lumigraphics]

Thank you for the comments! Two screenshots are posted below showing the odd menu drawing. The other menus draw down, but these two draw upwards.

The third image is a mockup (shameless copypasta), having fonts in the Type menu so they are accessible when panels are hidden. You'll also notice Bodoni ornaments, the rightmost glyph is cut off. This is straight from the font browser.

[Jumpenjax]

How to turn off "Font Class" in Character > Font drop down menu

[奇睿295428958rs0]

我想关闭字体类别，这会导致右侧的字体名称无法完全显示。

[奇睿295428958rs0]

@Pete.Green The Chinese fonts are completely incompatible with the classification and cannot be turned off, so I cannot see the font name completely.

[ZerinaAkula]

I simply do NOT want the class list to show up. I've seen stuff classified as "Black Letter" which are, in fact "Script" (with "script" actually in the name of the font). So these font classes are worthless. 

First view (now using version 26.2.0 in hopes that this issues was fixed, but it obviously wasn't).

This is using the Font List in the ribbon. Note that it covers the entire height of the window, I can't shorten it, I can't move it. Plus, it covers half of my document. And the "font box" even extends further past the Photoshop artboard. Makes it kinda hard to check out type I have on that side of the document. 

This is using the Type window, and while I can see the artboard entirely, but I tend to work more zoomed, so the class list is either taking up valuable real estate in "full page view" or I can't see what's on the right side when I zoom in to fine tune things. 

Again: the fact that this font box isn't resizable, isn't moveable, and I can't turn off the font class list (which has been incorrect a good 70% of the time in classifying types of fonts, rendering it useless), makes it extremely difficult to use fonts in Photoshop. A simple drop down list is all I need.

I'm looking for alternatives to Photoshop (and Adobe in general). I did return to QuarkXpress because they still use Pantone colors. So please, listen to the people. You're adding things they don't want. We hated Pagemaker, loved Quark, then InDesign came out, and wow! Simple, easy to use...now it's back to, "Seriously? I can't use our company logo because Adobe doesn't allow Pantone colors?" So, Quark it is. Now to find a Photoshop alternative because most of these updates have been things that either slow down my work flow to such a point it's nervewracking, or just bloated stuff that drains my computer more quickly than rendering a multi-gigabit 3D image. Let's get back to the basics.

[hietommy]

Hi, @Pete.Green 

Sorry for the very late reply!
I just noticed that the left side is now collapsible!
I think it's much better now, thank you for the update.

[Pete.Green]

Awesome, so glad you were able to find the collapse/expand button in the UI there and that it's useful for you! Thanks @hietommy !

[Pete.Green]

Updating status