Now in Beta: ‘Override Media Color Space’ now available for all media formats except raw formats

Report · Feb 14, 2024

Currently for certain supported formats (TIFF, DNxHD, DNxHR, XDCAM HD, etc.), Premiere Pro displays these clips as ‘Not color managed’. For these clips, customers cannot override the color space of these clips . Also, the ability to add any input LUT via ‘Source Clip’ section is disabled.

Previous behavior of Lumetri Color > Settings > Source Clip for TIFF media

In Adobe Premiere Pro 24.3 beta, customers can now manually override media color space in such cases for all type of supported media formats except raw formats. Additionally, customers will also get an option to apply LUT directly via Lumetri Color > Settings > Source Clip > Input LUT

Enhanced behavior of Lumetri Color > Settings > Source Clip for TIFF media with this feature

We would much appreciate your feedback on this new feature!

Report · Feb 14, 2024

This is fantastic. I mentioned this a lot when the new management system was just introduced. Haven't checked it out yet but I think one of the most concerning issues would still be about embedded profiles for stills vs Rec.709 timelines. AFAIK there's no sRGB color space selectable? However some image files / psd/ai are detected with it and converted to Rec.709 but most of them are read "raw" without conversion of the values. Is this still the case?

And what about After Effects Dynamic Link? If you have say an SLog3/SG3.cine clip but you want to do some compositing in AE but not render it out. Can you tag a Dynamic Link clip as being SLog3/SG3.cine or any other available color space?

Report · Feb 14, 2024

Good questions ...

Report · Feb 16, 2024

Hi @Shebbe
All of still media are not color managed i.e. Host application (PremierePro) is not interpreting/reading it color space metadata.

JPEG, PNG are color managed, and PremierePro detects the ICC profile embedded in them and do the conversion to Rec. 709 timeline.
But importer for .psd/.ai/.tiff are not color managed (as of now, and we will be making them color space aware as well in future) and they will read the media data as raw on Rec. 709 timeline.
Through this change if stills (non-color managed) has sRGB profile then user can select sRGB from interpret footage and there will be conversion of media value to Rec. 709 timeline. We will not be using the actual ICC profile in the media for the conversion though and this may leads to some accuracy problem .. needs to be tested.
But the problem will still be there if these stills has some other profile like AdobeRGB, ProPhoto etc .. we do not have these available as overridable option in interpret footage.
This problem will be fixed automatically when all still become color space aware in application.

Thanks,

Report · Feb 16, 2024

Thanks for the insights Chetan! Sounds promising. Will this mean the 2 formats that are auto detected and converted when icc is embedded will be depricated to make all image formats behave consistent and keep responsibility at the user level? Would be good to know if in a future update this will create a mismatch when opening older projects that relied on it.

Report · Feb 16, 2024

No, the formats that are auto detected will keep functioning as is.

Plan is to enable more formats to allow auto detection of media color space and have convenient way to bypass color management for any media when required.

Report · Feb 16, 2024

With the (thankfully!) constant addition of supported formats/codecs and color managed formats, we users cannot possibly keep track of which is supported in any one build.

We need a permanent, top menu item, listing such things for quick reference. I created an Idea post for this ...

Supported Formats ...

Report · Jun 21, 2024

Hi! Thanks for this option, but it doesn't work on multicam clips, and also - can you please make a "universal" on/off switch for all LUTs, that would be EXTREMELY useful.

I have problems with my Alexa Pro Res 4444XQ clips, that get imported with Almira LUT automaticaly "glued" to it. Then I have to remove the LUTs clip by clip, which is really difficult for a feature-lenght movie.

Thanks in advance,

Stevan

Report · Aug 19, 2024

Hi! There is still no option to change the AMIRA lut for the multicam clips? It's impossible to switch it off, once the subclip from the multicam has been created.

Can you please make a "master switch" to turn off all the embedded LUTs? It would be highly appreciated.

Stevan

Report · Aug 19, 2024

Are they still using a LUT for that, or is it an algorithm process now?

Do you have a sample clip to send me for testing? I've not run any Amira footage in awhile.