AI Content

[Jonah32110367oj81]

I have a few pictures I've taken with my camera and eddited before it was submitted, however it was rejected and the promp said it could be because AI generated content. I have the original photo to prove otherwise. Is there something I am not understanding with the AI generitive guidlines?

[RALPH_L]

This has happened to me also. Some photos are edited so well that the reviwer cannot be certain if it is AI image or a photo. There is nothing you can do except wait a few weeks, redit and resubmit.

[daniellei4510]

Oh, the irony! 🙂 That good photographs are being mistaken for AI because they are TOO good. This does not bode well for beginning photographers especially. 

[daniellei4510]

Perhaps I should have said it does not bode well for professional photographers.

[daniellei4510]

That's a bummer. I suspect a lot of AI designers are attempting to game the system by NOT checking the appropriate boxes and the moderators are over compensating for that possibility. When you resubmit as @RALPH_L suggested, you might try starting your titles with "Photograph of..." if you haven't been doing so already.

[oleschwander]

This is crazy. I think that AS has given itself a great challenge to find out what is AI and what is not.

[daniellei4510]

I think it can be noticable in 99% of most images if one looks REALLY closely. Especially portraits. Even if the hands are hidden, the eyes often give it away. Normally, irises are perfectly round and almost always have identical catchlights in real photos. This rarely happens with AI and most AI designers are remiss in correcting the issue. Some food AI as well. It can be difficult to notice, but AI photos of food seem to have a very subtle "waxy" or "plastic" quality about them, while still looking good enough to eat. Animals can be especially difficult, although the same rules apply with respect to catchlights. Of course, images that are presented as photographs but are surrealistic in nature are simple enough to spot, though there are certainly surrealistic images composited from actual photographs. 

[jacquelingphoto2017]

Hi @Jonah32110367oj81 ,

This is not with photos only. I am not understanding what is going on. Most of my photos are refused. While I find error with a few most of them seem quite fine. My doubt was confirmed when I got two vectors refused. Reason?  One for bitmap element, the other for I having similar to others I uploaded. The first had no bitmap element and the second was the only of that design I'd submitted. This is telling me that many of the refusals are not genuine and of course we have no way of knowing for most of them which are genuine. While these kinds of refusals are going on for photos and vectors, defective generative AI files are going through to the point people are commenting about it on social media and seeking the option to go to other places.

This have been going on for a long time. I'm not saying this is the case, but it gives the feeling of people being paid by how many they process and thus choose to do batch refusal with trump-up reasons for some formats and batch acceptance for generative AI. Generative AI search, page 1 and third image https://stock.adobe.com/search?k=Generative+AI+images&search_type=usertyped&asset_id=621883464 the tie is minding its own business. I did't have to zoom to find this defect. Why the reviewer could not see it? It would be interesting to really know what causes these discrepancies.

Best wishes

Jacquelin

[daniellei4510]

Yep, the cat with the tie was a bad call for sure. But many actual photographs make it through as well that should not. Frankly, I love the fact that Adobe Stock vets all images submitted. Sometimes they get it wrong. I occasionally upload to Redbubble and anything and everything gets accepted so long as the person submitting the images checks a box saying the submission is theirs and violates no copyright issues. I prefer that my images are critiqued and either accepted or refused.

As far as the "too many other images being similar" is concerned, I'm sure not a single moderator can remember what has been accepted previously. I suspect that such images are flagged as being similar to others and the moderator can override the notification if they feel the images are unique enough to accept. If they are so-so or lack unique qualities, the moderator can flag such images as being too redundant. I've had a number of flower/bouquet images accepted and a number of black and white images accepted, neither of which should pass muster according to the common beliefs expoused here on the forum.

[Abambo]

I've had a number of flower/bouquet images accepted and a number of black and white images accepted, neither of which should pass muster according to tjecommon beliefs expoused here on the forum.

By @daniellei4510

Most of the black and white assets get refused, but it is not an absolute role. If you want to take your chance, you are welcome to do so.

Flowers are being accepted and are being sold. They won't be your most popular pictures. I just this week sold two assets from 2018, which everyone, me including, would say that they don't sell. They were the correct setting for the buyer.

[daniellei4510]

Agreed. Of course, the black and white images that I've had accepted were created with AI and not TURNED into black and white images during the editing process. One can usually tell when an original color photo was turned into black and white during editing. There's just a certain quality about them that makes it apparernt. I suspect one can make a setting on a some digital cameras to create B&W rather than color. I have a Canon 77D and haven't even played with it enough to find out. But I'm sure the results would be in stark contrast to B&W images made with traditional film. 

[jacquelingphoto2017]

Re: Similar

Similar is a reason for refusal and a serious one since it is counted as spamming and can result in account suspension or closure. Also, there are specified boundaries or latitudes that determine similar refusal, which include orientation, angle, subject-element contribution consideration and number of files meeting the above criteria. Therefore, there are established physical means and ways to check for similar. Checking for similar is not hard. With a modern computer with fast speed it takes a second and I do believe they do check portfolios for similar.

This is what I observe from submit experience. If there is an issue with the file submitting that deserve being flagged. I see that it's flagged or it's barred. Any other flagging I don't know of and have no reason to believe is the case, and will not speculate. If you submit multiple images together that are similar you'll get similar refusal. 

One last point I refuse to defend an action that I have almost no knowledge about. What I see, is what it is. What I see is moderators refusing good files with trump-up refusal reason and accepting defective files.

Regards

Jacquelin

[Nancy OShea]

the other for I having similar to others I uploaded.

By @jacquelingphoto2017

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Duplicate content can mean too similar to other "Stock inventory." 

Did you compare yours with current inventory to ensure it's unique and not over-represented?

[jacquelingphoto2017]

I read carefully. The refusal reason said nothing about "other Stock inventory".  It was specific to me and my portfolio. Can you please post here the guideline link that says "Duplicate content can mean too similar to other 'Stock inventory.' "? I hear a lot about it and would love to read it.

Your question:

"Did you compare yours with current inventory to ensure it's unique and not over-represented?"

Answer: No, I'm not a buyer. The guidelines I read did not mention that to be a requirement. Therefore, if it is I'd love to see the guideline link that says so.  I'm a contributor, and except that which is relevant to the fora other peoples work is no business of mine. I avoid them to make sure I do not duplicate them. If I don't see it I can't reproduce it. Therefore, I make it my business not to look.

For clarification:

I search the AI page because others are complaining and I look to see if what is said is true. I do not go far. As soon as I confirm what I hear or read about I'm out.

I suggest that all contributors carefully read through all the information in the rejection notice. What is there that's it. There is no room for speculation. The information are specific and sometimes detailed.

Regards

Jacquelin