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Quality Issues rejection

Explorer ,
Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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Hi.

Just got this batch rejected for "Quality Issues"

I don't mass upload. This was a batch of 5 images, all rejected.

Can anyone suggest what where the "Quality Issues"?

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Enthusiast ,
Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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Svetlana - there are flaws in your images. Why do you yourself think they are rejected?

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Explorer ,
Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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Some defects can escape everyone and it is right to discard, but what I see in the new photos approved on the main site makes me think... I checked the discarded photos and I can't understand where the problem is, there is no noise, composition and right details ditto... maybe some more news on the new rules isn't bad. At least the reason why an image is discarded.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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You will not receive feedback from Adobe Moderators regarding specific reasons for rejections. They simply don't have time to do that, and they push the reject button based on the first flaw they see. However, Adobe has provided this forum for Contributors to obtain feedback from other forum participants. Please start a new forum post and upload 2-3 of your rejected images, and we'll respond to that.

Jill C., Forum Volunteer

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Explorer ,
Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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Svetlana - there are flaws in your images. Why do you yourself think they are rejected?

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By @Festive_epicness157F

@Festive_epicness157FIf you are writing a comment under a post, especialy after some time, polite thing to do is to read all of the previous comments. If you did that, you would find that my comments answers your questions.

You are missing a point.

What you have marked in that image can be done, on almost every new ai image approwed daily, for obvoius, technology limiting, reasons. So you doing that doesn't discover a hole in the plant pot al over again after thousands of years. To be something "new".

As you can see in the comments, some people have also noticed a new "trend" in regards of adobe "standards".

Which coincide with the sudden drop in review times. From 2 months to 2 days.

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Contributor ,
Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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Why would you ask for advice and then reject the very good advice you got from people with FAR more accepted images and FAR more sold images than you? I don't quite understand your approach here. It seems that you are simply looking to argue, and not for assistance or advice.

 

I also upload & sell quite a bit of partly AI-generated work, and I would not have been surprised to see these rejected, had they been my own submissions (although most likely I wouldn't have submitted these, for the reasons already given by others here).

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Community Expert ,
Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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When you are replying to a specific post in a long thread such as this one, you should press Reply under that post to make sure you address your remarks to the right person. They also receive an email alert of your specific response if you do so. Thanks!

Jill C., Forum Volunteer

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Explorer ,
Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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@moe hong wrote:

Why would you ask for advice and then reject the very good advice you got from people with FAR more accepted images and FAR more sold images than you? I don't quite understand your approach here. It seems that you are simply looking to argue, and not for assistance or advice.

 

I also upload & sell quite a bit of partly AI-generated work, and I would not have been surprised to see these rejected, had they been my own submissions (although most likely I wouldn't have submitted these, for the reasons already given by others here).


@moe hongI will quote myself from the comment i wrote just now to another poster. To avoid waisting my time.

"If you are writing a comment under a post, especialy after some time, polite thing to do is to read all of the previous comments. If you did that, you would find that my comments answers your questions."

And for the "more experienced" people. Judging by their answers (including the ones that has "Community Expert" badge that do not know the basic functions on the adobe stock web page and that have obvious lack of microstock industry knowledge). All of them combined probably didn't sold more images then me. Why is that is in the comments that you failed to read.

 

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New Here ,
Jan 05, 2024 Jan 05, 2024

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I completely agree with you, I had exactly the same problem.
The waiting period for verification has been reduced from two months to several days.
But for this privilege I had to pay with almost 80-100% rejection of all submitted works!
When I came here for help, these guys simply closed my threads, and then completely banned me!
It's amazing that you lasted this long! %)
I've been watching them a lot here!
Where do they get the stars and signature of a community expert, you ask?
It's very simple - they constantly give each other good grades!
And they are truly experts!
Not everyone can find a mistake in an almost perfect image! But these guys can!
I think if you give them a painting of a simple solid color, they will circle the empty space in it and say there are bad pixels!
It’s also very interesting how they ignore the questions you ask! But don't worry, it's good. A month ago people were banned for asking such questions.
Personally, I don't understand why they do this.
It looks like they are working there as moderators. And here they are covering up their sloppy work. Trying to prove to everyone that they are dummies who don’t understand anything! Otherwise, what is the point of ordinary participants defending some very obvious disorder in such deviations?

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Enthusiast ,
Jan 06, 2024 Jan 06, 2024

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'And they are truly experts!' - But are they wrong ..?

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Community Expert ,
Jan 06, 2024 Jan 06, 2024

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'And they are truly experts!' - But are they wrong ..?


By @Festive_epicness157F

Probably not!

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Community Expert ,
Jan 06, 2024 Jan 06, 2024

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You said:

"Where do they get the stars and signature of a community expert, you ask?
It's very simple - they constantly give each other good grades!
And they are truly experts!"

 

Since you seem to be curious about how forum members here earn the badge of "Community Experts", I will provide some additional info. Firstly, we are NOT Moderators; we don't know any Moderators; we have no access to Moderators; we have no influence over Moderators; we don't know how many Moderators there are, how they are hired, what they are paid, where they work, what hours they keep, or how many assets they review in an hour. 

 

Adobe provides these fora for all of their major products and services. If you want to visit any of the other fora, click the "Adobe Community" logo at the top edge of this page, and you can see how many fora there are. Each of these Communites has a specific purpose, and each has attracted subject-area experts. This is good for Adobe customers and good for Adobe, in that users can get their questions answered by experienced, fellow users, and Adobe doesn't have to hire as many support personnel.

The "Community Expert" badge is earned by frequent, useful communications in the forum, as indicated by the number of correct answers and helpful votes. But that's not enough; a candidate for "Community Expert" must be nominated by another experienced community member, and the candidate must fill out an application form. The Adobe employee that manages the program reviews the application and confirms that the applicant is qualified and has, indeed, been providing accurate and useful input to fellow community members. (This is publicly available info by the way. You can Google Adobe Community Experts to confirm.)

The Community Experts (CEs) in the Stock Contributor forum are all successful, experienced fellow Contributors. I have been a Contributor on Adobe Stock since 2016, and have contributec to Getty Images for over a decade. Other CEs here also contribute to multiple agencies. We all keep up to date on issues relating to Adobe Stock by various means including this Forum and other public forums as well as other internal communcations.

If you've had any of your previous posts closed in this forum, it's because they violated the terms of use of this forum. And if you've been banned, it's because of repeated abuses of the T&C's. But here you are again. We know who you are.

 

We CEs do our best to help our fellow Contributors understand the "do's and don'ts" of Adobe Stock and to try and understand why assets are rejected; but as I mentioned earlier, we have no access to the Moderation staff. Just like you, we're making "educated guesses". Sometimes the errors are obvious, sometimes more subtle. And very occasionally, but not often, we conclude that the asset should not have been rejected after all. Quite often, based on our input, a Contributor is able to rework a rejected asset and get it accepted on the second try.

 

I hope that you find this information helpful.

Jill C., Forum Volunteer

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Community Expert ,
Jan 06, 2024 Jan 06, 2024

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If you've had any of your previous posts closed in this forum, it's because they violated the terms of use of this forum. And if you've been banned, it's because of repeated abuses of the T&C's. But here you are again. We know who you are.


By @Jill_C

As a side note: Community Experts do not have the power to ban you. But they can suggest a review of your posts, and if the reviewer thinks that you violated the terms of this community, you get banned.

 

You can check the public profiles of the Community Experts. You will find that they are mostly well-experienced.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Explorer ,
Jan 07, 2024 Jan 07, 2024

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@Jill_CWhy is your comment marked as an "answer" and by whom?

Also, to quote you. "The Community Experts (CEs) in the Stock Contributor forum are all successful, experienced fellow Contributors."

How about we all share our stock portfolios here. To see whos who?

So far i havent seen any "expert" here. Just the same old elitistic, "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours"  "kind" of people that is populating the forums troughout the web since the dawn of internet.

Wery easy to spot, that "kind".

All that the "experts" do here is quoting the "guides". Nothing more.

You are admiting yourself that fact. To quote you "Just like you, we're making "educated guesses"."

Successful stockers (real experts) don't frequent the forums, let alone chase some "badges". There is simply no time for that.

Exceptions might be the top stockers that have staff to handle the most time consuming tasks like editing, keywording, uploading.

Somehow i dought that it is the case with "experts" here.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 07, 2024 Jan 07, 2024

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We quote the guidelines because so many Contributors, especially the ones who have flocked to Adobe Stock in the last year during the AI Gold Rush, are not familiar with the Adobe Help pages, or perhaps haven't read them at all. Adobe does not bestow the "Community Expert" status lightly or casually. Perhaps you are misunderstanding the "Expert" badge. It does not mean that we are each making thousands of dollars a month selling on Adobe Stock. Indeed, that is not a criteria for being able to understand Adobe's procedures and guidelines and to be able to analyze assets. Few forum participants, including the CEs and yourself, reveal their Adobe Stock Portfolio names. That's just good practice, and in fact recommended for all who participate in the forums: https://community.adobe.com/t5/using-the-community-discussions/staying-safe-in-the-adobe-community/t...

Jill C., Forum Volunteer

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Explorer ,
Jan 07, 2024 Jan 07, 2024

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@Jill_C  You haven't answered me who and why marked your comment as an answer?

There is literary multiple links to all possible guides and help pages on every step of the submission process.

I have wondered arround this forum and came to conclussion that adobe indeed hands out "Community Expert" status lightly.

I could explain here in detail why, but there would be some "broken hearts and dreams" in the process.

I am not misunderstanding anything. I am aware that "Community Experts" are on the bottom part of the contributor comunity, when it comes to financials (sales). It is painfully obvious.

Also obvious is that sales are not the criteria for "expert" badge, here.

But it should be.

One problem about that. There is not a chance in the universe that adobe could find a successful stocker that would accept that role for a myriad of reasons. Not everyone is willing to waist time for some ego busting trip, cloaking it under the "goodness of my heart" reasons.

You sharing that link to explain "good practice" just proves my point about the "expertise".

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Explorer ,
Jan 08, 2024 Jan 08, 2024

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Tonight I uploaded 30 photos... a couple of minutes later they were clearly all discarded. I don't know what the problems are but I have to compliment you on the speed in unwrapping without looking at the photos. And then I look now and I see certain works full of errors that pass by... let me understand, I spend hours on ps to improve the photos of faces, hands, fingers, postures, etc... and then there are photos with disfigured faces, fingers, etc. creepy stuff. I don't know very disappointed and I'm not new to the ai world

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Community Expert ,
Jan 09, 2024 Jan 09, 2024

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quoteI am not misunderstanding anything. I am aware that "Community Experts" are on the bottom part of the contributor comunity, when it comes to financials (sales). It is painfully obvious.

Also obvious is that sales are not the criteria for "expert" badge, here.

But it should be.


By @Svetlana28639737zwpi

You are misunderstanding the role of the Comunity Experts. The Experts Badge gets attributed for knowledge not for sales. They are giving good advice in the fora and elsewhere, are LinkedIn Learning contributors, are writing books, and are very successfully professionally. I for my part, I have licensed more stock assets as a customer than I have sold. So every asset I see here, I check it with the eyes of the customer. As a contributor, I have earned my share of refusals, as any of us contributors. So I know what to look for and what makes problems. As a photographer, I'm mostly doing photography on assignment, so the most interesting pictures are for my clients, not for me. And they are mostly not for stock, as my clients love to have their logos in the picture. 

 

I'm not very much into generative AI, but I play with AI. The thing with AI is that contributors think that artefacts are normal, so they have to be accepted. But that is not the case. As a customer, I expect perfect assets for the price I pay. And customers can get very angry at Adobe for accepting a lot of bad assets. So if your assets are not meeting the quality standards, you need to correct that. If bad assets get accepted, and you are happy with that, it is your business. As I said, any asset I get that is bad will be returned.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Community Expert ,
Jan 06, 2024 Jan 06, 2024

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quoteWhen I came here for help, these guys simply closed my threads, and then completely banned me!
It's amazing that you lasted this long! %)
By @London34625740q15t

You got banned more than once, if my memory is correct. But you didn't get banned because of disagreeing on quality issues.

 

And I feel that this thread is near to get closed. All arguments have been made.

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It looks like they are working there as moderators. And here they are covering up their sloppy work. Trying to prove to everyone that they are dummies who don’t understand anything! Otherwise, what is the point of ordinary participants defending some very obvious disorder in such deviations?


By @London34625740q15t

There you are again, with your conspiracy theories. None of the participants here is working as an image moderator. They are very busy checking the pictures. They don't have time to discuss things with you here.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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New Here ,
Jan 06, 2024 Jan 06, 2024

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What are you talking about?
Are all arguments given?
These are not arguments, this is demagoguery.
You are not any experts, you have absolutely no understanding of these issues! (What can we talk about if the dispersion artifact is confused with the glow effect?)
If you knew even a little detective work, you would know about the motives!
Any detective would have to explain to you why you are so vehemently defending a moderator who is not doing his job!
Whether you are associated with him or not, or you are paid money to justify at any cost any right or wrong action of the moderator, what difference does it make?
In this case, you are doing very badly, and what you are doing does not deserve respect!
It's very easy to expose
First: you cannot indicate which image is accepted and which is not! So you are not experts!
When I told you about this for the first time, you took me and banned me. That is, to tell the truth here, is it a violation of the rules of your personal community or is it a condition of the Adobe company that you need to comply with?
Second: enough about conspiracy theories, you create them yourself.
Is this also some kind of taboo topic for you, to see the simple fact of inconsistency in accepting and rejecting works? Why are you ignoring this question, or telling some nonsense about some strict trained moderator or some not strict moderators who made a mistake, or about the fact that there is not enough space on the Adobe servers, and any other nonsense?
Are you getting paid for this? Or is this your personal initiative?

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Enthusiast ,
Jan 08, 2024 Jan 08, 2024

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"... the simple fact of inconsistency in accepting and rejecting works? "

No one denies that if you read the comments.

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What are you talking about?

Are all arguments given? These are not arguments, this is demagoguery.

By @London34625740q15t

You know well. Please stop this.

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(What can we talk about if the dispersion artifact is confused with the glow effect?)


By @London34625740q15t

You can agree or disagree on this. But you are spreading conspiracy theories, because people do not agree with you.

quoteIf you knew even a little detective work, you would know about the motives!
Any detective would have to explain to you why you are so vehemently defending a moderator who is not doing his job!

By @London34625740q15t

This is not a (criminal) investigation. I know detective work only from TV. But why would have a detective to explain what I'm doing?

quoteFirst: you cannot indicate which image is accepted and which is not! So you are not experts!
When I told you about this for the first time, you took me and banned me. That is, to tell the truth here, is it a violation of the rules of your personal community or is it a condition of the Adobe company that you need to comply with?

By @London34625740q15t

You weren't banned for that, and I have not the power to ban you. We do not need to tell you what asset got accepted and what asset got refused, we tell you what reasons we see to refuse an asset. If you do not see a reason, we say so. Rarely we effectively can't figure out what the moderator may have seen. You take that advice or you leave it. But the argument that this bad asset has been accepted and therefore the moderator needs to accept also the other bad asset is none. The other way is true. You were lucky to get one bad asset accepted. If the customer complains, it gets deleted if the super moderator agrees with the complaint.

quoteIs this also some kind of taboo topic for you, to see the simple fact of inconsistency in accepting and rejecting works? Why are you ignoring this question, or telling some nonsense about some strict trained moderator or some not strict moderators who made a mistake,(...)

By @London34625740q15t

Inconsistency is indeed a bad thing, but we see mostly inconsistency on the acceptance side, not the refusal side. And there is a lot of inconsistency with accepted bad AI pictures. With a lot, I see the errors on the tiny previews. Mostly when buyers complain about the bad quality. 

 

And just to say: we do not get paid. The only ones getting paid by Adobe are Adobe emplyees. 

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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