Adobe on Linux Ubuntu 22.04 LTS

[AMADEO_PL]

Hi,

Am I the only one, except NASA, who want to work full time only on Linux?

ADOBE, time to go forward! Or you are waiting for a Serif to make a milestone?

PS: Color management is much more easy and 'stable' compared to Windows. (x-rite i1display PRO PLUS + DisplayCAL)

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[thatsmauri]

The bitter reality is that Linux doesn't have a noteworthy market share on desktop PCs. Right now, it's about ~2.48%. As long as this won't change drastically in the future, Adobe just won't waste their time porting software to it.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/the-lounge-discussions/waiting-for-linux-native-softwares-cloud-on-li...

[AMADEO_PL]

macOS is ~ 15% (Mac lovers, designers, equipment quality and a litle bit as a luxury for the middle class)

iOS ~ 3% (as above)

Windows ~ 70% (of unconscious users; PC gamers, users do not accept Apple's non-compliance policy; or there is no alternative for them because there is no software they need for Linux) *

My guess is that more than half of Adobe users have macOS, the rest are PC advanced users, so it seems to me that the system split between Adobe users is drastically different than the rest of the market.

I have an iPad PRO 12.9 and I love it for its colors, but I hate it for its incompatibility and I have Windows because I have to and Linux for almost 2 years and it surprised me that it is intuitive, looks nice and it is fast.

*market division source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/268237/global-market-share-held-by-operating-systems-since-2009/

[AMADEO_PL]

my private guess / opinion in brackets

[edi2562659055sp]

Can you imagine the number of users who could switch to Linux if Adobe would support Linux. I personally would pass immediately. I really don't like Windows.

[Test Screen Name]

"Can you imagine the number of users who could switch to Linux if Adobe would support Linux. I personally would pass immediately. I really don't like Windows."

But... how would that help Adobe's profits? They would spend tens of millions and get - what - a lot of users switching - not a cent extra there. How many entirely new customers? They'd want at least 50,000 new full price customers before thinking about it, I imagine (without any inside info).

[dducharme]

I guess I won't bother with Adobe, period.

[Test Screen Name]

Linux has plenty of free PDF readers. What would Acrobat Reader give you that they don't? This is why Adobe gave up Reader on Linux over 10 years ago. 

[AMADEO_PL]

I am counting on:

Lightroom Classic - There is Darktable, grate software but sometimes I cant get exact colours as I want.

Photoshop - There is a Gimp, and I was shockt it's so good, but there is no properity layers as Affinity or Photoshop has, but there is frequancy separation witch is best for retouching.

[glfmn]

Substance already supports Linux, 

[glfmn]

Adobe should get on board and roll out the rest of their software.

[LinSims]

Adobe purchased the makers of Substance. There is no guarantee that Adobe will continue to support the Linux version of Substance.

NB: I do not work for Adobe. I do not speak for Adobe. I have no influence on Adobe's decisions. I do not know what their plans for Substance are. 

[Peru Bob · Accepted solution]

See the reply by Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021) here:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/the-lounge-discussions/waiting-for-linux-native-softwares-cloud-on-li...

[kushyuzumakeke]

to this he's wrong about the lower price. it's smaller size/download and less resources so more RAM to be left over. I'm by no means professional or close but that's the best I can explain it. I'm also trying to host my own server and websites and Linux is easier to "publicate" to the web than Windows but all my programs for design and stuff are on Windows. The new sublinux seems great so as of now I'm just waiting until I can get a Windows 11 computer to mod. Im also switching from DDR3 to DDR4 so the entire process is going to have to wait. 

[Lumigraphics]

Zero chance of this happening. Despite the vocal fanbois, Linux on the desktop is simply not viable.

[Jeffery26544676wske]

I disagree while Windows and iOS do have the lion share of the PC OS based Linux and all the flavors that makes up the Linux Community is seeing an increase in usage.  I mean even Windows have seen the light and is doing a "Windows Subsystem for Linux",  see attached link (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/about).  The main reason for much of this is because Android based systems are a direct pipe of a Linux Kernel., guess what Adobe is on many of the Android devices and even is used on SmartTVs that run Android TV.

[kglad]

from https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide

i don't see linux trending up.  but it is slightly ahead of chrome os.

[Jeffery26544676wske]

While true but if you look at the total OS on all platform you will see Android/Linux has over 80% of the market share.  So in Desktop while Windows does reign King even as of last year there market share does keep getting smaller and smaller when the try and force people to pay out to nose for things like Office 365, and many other thing that are available else where.  Besides if Windows keep having these hiccups Linux and iOS will overtake Windows

[Abambo]

While true but if you look at the total OS on all platform you will see Android/Linux has over 80% of the market share. 

By Jeffery26544676wske

Android is not Linux. macOS is also based on UNIX, if I remember well, it's a BSD kernel, but nobody here would say that macOS is UNIX.

I can well remember a time, where, 30 years ago, I could have acquired a Photoshop version for my IRIS Workstation (IRIS was SGI's version of UNIX). Two years later, we switched from SGI to Windows workstations.

Linux is well established in some niche markets, like supercomputers, servers, and the like. In web servers it is unbeatable, the number one on the market. But the desktop market is dominated by Microsoft Windows (10 and 11) and macOS (soon to be exclusively on Apple Silicon).

I want to avoid disappointing you, but Linux is not gaining market share in the workstation market. Substance is on Linux because it supported Linux before Adobe acquired the company. I don't know the customer base, but it may well be that Substance won't survive on Linux.

What most people do not consider is the number of resources, you need to put in to support an OS. If you get a huge user base on Linux, that you can start dreaming.

I do not know about Darkroom, but I looked at Gimp some time ago. I concluded, that it is not a replacement for Photoshop. It's a nice product, but having the choice to use Photoshop, I won't move on for now.

[Jeffery26544676wske]

By the way Chrome OS is a pipe of Linux.  Granted this is Wiki but as you can see Chrome is a Pipe of Linux just like Android

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChromeOS#:~:text=ChromeOS%2C%20sometimes%20stylized%20as%20chromeOS,as....

[kglad]

i don't think anything in this thread dealt with mobile systems.  that's (mobile vs desktop) an entirely different topic

p.s. imo adobe is very engaged moving much of its software to mobile.

[Test Screen Name]

The kernel is pretty much irrrelevant. CC products already support a Unix kernel in MacOS. The work is in relating to the display, windowing and printing subsystems. Adobe products also rely on GPU, require a high end graphics card, and a very very stable graphics driver. This sort of GPU use is sensitive to driver version number, often requiring Studio releases rather than Gaming releases. I suspect this would be the real killer; it would be practical (if costing countless millions of dollars) to adapt to the X-windows system for basic display usage.

[kglad]

this is really beating a dead horse.  unless and until the economics change, adobe's not going to invest resources into something (linux for desktop) that's sure to lose money.

arguments about linux adjacent mobile os'es (android and ios) are also moot because adobe already supports them.

[linuxkernel]

Good one kglad!  In under two years since this post, we've successfully doubled our market share. It's important to highlight that a large segment of the "UNKNOWN" category is made up of Linux users. With Chromebook now supporting Linux applications, there's significant potential to tap into. Let’s not forget that Adobe used to support macOS when it had only a small portion of the current Linux market share. People will remember this, and we can expect alternatives for Linux like Davinci Resolve to thrive.

[kushyuzumakeke]

Has anyone successfully used WINE and Creative Cloud? I'm going to try after this comment but I mess up a lot so just thought i'd drop that idea. In case anyone doesnt know WINE is a program on the linux distributions that lets you install .exe files and i think .msi. I switch between windows and linux a lot.