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I am missing fonts on my computer and trying to update documents that my designer created. My computer is missing Gotham rounded bold and Gotham book. I know these exist and I should be able to load them via Adobe. I have a full license but don't understand why they are not available for me to download. Appreciate help with this issue so I don't have to disturb my designer who is on paternity leave. Thaknks
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The Gotham font family is not one of the font families supported by the Adobe Fonts service. There are literally at least hundreds of thousands of different fonts out there. The Adobe Fonts service provides only a very small subset of those from a limited number of font foundries.
Although some limited members of the Gotham font family are available for free download for personal only use (and from your description, your usage is definitely not “personal use” only, for any commercial use you n
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The Gotham font family is not one of the font families supported by the Adobe Fonts service. There are literally at least hundreds of thousands of different fonts out there. The Adobe Fonts service provides only a very small subset of those from a limited number of font foundries.
Although some limited members of the Gotham font family are available for free download for personal only use (and from your description, your usage is definitely not “personal use” only, for any commercial use you need to buy a license from Hoefler & Co. at https://www.typography.com/fonts/gotham/styles. Note that these licenses can get quite expensive.
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Same issue here. If I purchase the license from H&Co will I still have support issues from Adobe?
btw, Adobe has really put us in a bind by eliminating so many fonts and forcing us to use Adobe fonts.
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Adobe would noit support fonts purchased outside of its font service, I'm guessing. And it was a decision by the foundries to remove numerous fonts.
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Same issue here. If I purchase the license from H&Co will I still have support issues from Adobe?
Which issue? One thing is sure, if you purchase a licence from (former) Hoefler you will be able to download, install and use Gotham (or any other font). This true for all foundries, or font resellers sites.
Adobe has really put us in a bind by eliminating so many fonts and forcing us to use Adobe fonts.
Forcing us? Nobody forces you to use Adobe fonts… You can install any font you want on your system and use them.
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How do you install them then if it doesnt show up? I have my Gotham Rounded installed in Font Book but it isn't loading in Photoshop.
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Does Gotham Rounded load in other applications? Did you try to restart Photoshop?
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Thank you, yes, it loads in InDesign and Illustrator. And yes, I restarted.
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Do you have a Type 1 font file? If so, Adobe is ending support, those can no longer be used in Photoshop.
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Why would Photoshop End Support for Type 1 font files?
Especially considering Many Designers still have thousands of Type 1 files from older Adobe Font Folios.
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There are pinned posts in this forum and Photoshop forum about the change.
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Because Type1 fonts are old technology and at some time you need to get rid of that ballast. Simply the testing of this is a considerable task for each release. Type 1 font technology has been superseded by Open Type Font technology. It's called progress. https://community.adobe.com/t5/type-typography-discussions/announcement-adobe-ends-support-for-type-...
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BTW: I have thousands of old Type 1 fonts, but I do not use any of those anymore since I have access to Google fonts and Adobe fonts. But my old documents need to be modified as soon as the support ends, or I will need to keep old software installed. Both options have their merits.
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I keep an older version of Illustrator installed on my Mac so that any time I need to open and work in an older project that used type 1 fonts, I can do so without the font issues. It matters if you want to make adjustments to older work for your portfolio or when an older client requests updates to something you used type 1 fonts in.
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Gotham is a typeface family designed by Tobias Frere-Jones, and was released by the Hoefler & Frere-Jones (H&FJ) typefoundry around 2000. Hoefler & Company (H&Cº) – now owned by Monotype – publish and license the typeface today.
If you have a licence to use Gotham, the only place that you could have purchased it was directly from H&FJ / H&Cº. It’s never been available from anywhere else: especially not from the original Adobe Type Library and the current Adobe Fonts service. The same applies to all other H&Cº typefaces. The chances of these H&Cº typefaces being made available on Adobe Fonts in the future is somewhat unlikely.
If you need to download new copies of the Gotham fonts that you’ve licensed, it’s best to contact Hoefler & Company directly:
• Website: https://www.typography.com/
• Telephone: +1 212 777 6640 (US Eastern Time)
• Email: support@typography.com
Just make sure to have copies of your original licences and receipts on hand. H&Cº has a reputation in the type industry of being very thorough about such matters.
I hope that answers your question. If not, please let me know.
Best regards
Andrew
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A Google search turns up numerous places to download Gotham, claiming that its free for personal use. I have no knowledge one way or the other, just saying that its available from more than just the foundry.
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You’re correct that internet searches will bring up sites that offer free downloads of Gotham. There are also sites that claim that Gotham is free for personal use.
But Hoefler & Company (H&Cº) will beg to disagree, just like Adobe would do so about freely-available copies of software like Photoshop being available online for download.
H&Cº have a long history of being especially proprietorial about their font licensing. Their licences have been much more specific than other typefoundries: even spelling out in the past precisely how tall characters could be if they were used to produce bitmap graphics (≤ 500 pixels). I’d have to refer back to my original Hoefler Type Foundry catalogues and specimens for precise details.
Unless new H&Cº owner Monotype have dramatically changed the licensing terms on H&Cº fonts, it’s reasonable to assume that the versions of Gotham freely available online are not there out of H&Cº’s own choice. If you’re a professional who intends to produce designs that use Gotham to make money, then it’ll be your responsibility to see that you have purchased the appropriate font licences from H&Cº.
The irony is that the letterforms that you find in Gotham are not especially original. If you look closely at American buildings dating back to the mid-20th century, you’ll notice similar letterforms being used. These letterforms were very popular in the architectural trade, because they were easy for architects and engineers to draw.
The reason why modern designers are required to license Gotham’s interpretation of these letterforms is because Tobias Frere-Jones decided to spend the time translating them into digital format. Gotham is the software product, and Monotype and H&Cº are the current licence owners.
One interesting side-effect: during the 2000s, Gotham became a very popular typeface along with mid-century geometric slab-serifs like Monotype’s Rockwell. Periodicals in New York – H&Cº’s home town – were the first mass-users, followed later by politicians. Nowadays, Gotham appears to be the default typeface used by American politicians for campaigning.
But not everyone could afford to license Gotham. Some designers noticed a remarkable similarity between Gotham’s geometric letterforms and those of the late Adrian Frutiger’s Avenir typeface, which was quietly released in 1988. Avenir was much more affordable – and its licensing terms far more relaxed – so it became increasingly popular as the ‘poor designer’s Gotham’.
Avenir is an excellent design in itself: it’s easy to think of Gotham as a version of Avenir with a larger overall x-height. What also helped is that Apple included Avenir as a standard system font for Mac OS X starting in the 2000s. And since many designers use Macintoshes, Avenir became a default choice over Gotham by the virtue of being preinstalled on all new Apple computers.
Best regards
Andrew
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I purchased the font and still could not use.
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Did you get OpenType or TrueType versions?
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Kameya:
If you’ve purchased a licence for Gotham directly from Hoefler & Cº, the typefoundry has a webpage that will help you download and install the font files on your computer:
https://www.typography.com/faq#9
Since Gotham is not available through the Adobe Fonts service, you’ll need to contact H&Cº directly with any questions:
• Website: https://www.typography.com/
• Telephone: +1 212 777 6640 (US Eastern Time)
• Email: support@typography.com
Best regards
Andrew
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