I believe that the only way, will be thru an ANE. Should be a simple ANE with a single method, however you still need to build one. ... View more

"What I don't understand is: what becomes of Flash Builder?" It's difficult to leave AIR for many reasons but IDE it's not so difficult. You have alternative (and better) options. It will takes a few days (if not more) to get used, but worth it. One less piece of software depends on Adobe. "But when a cross-platform project requires Windows / desktop, AIR is still the best option we have, it seems, since all other frameworks do not seem to offer mature & reliable solutions." Unfortunately, I agree 100% on this point. And you can compile from the same source code with 0 changes to macOS that for me it's very important. I already looked at Haxe/OpenFl but HaxeUI seems very incomplete and without maintenance for 2 years. ... View more

AIR for Desktop is already pretty good, so I think that it's not a bad time to ask for support to Linux (OK, after the dramatic situation about Android 64 bits that Adobe toasted us). For what I had read so far, if someone is able to bring AIR for Linux is Harman and seems that it's an area that they are confortable. I would not imagine ask for Adobe to bring back AIR for Linux. Better, I would ask nothing to Adobe. Unfortunately, Adobe treated us, as second citizens in the past years and specially in the past months and some dudes get used to ask very little and get nothing in return. ... View more

You are very focus on YOUR use case. I don't know other uses cases out there ! On my use case, there are few competitors and ALL of then are Windows only, except me with macOS support. Just because of that I have a advantage on users that want to run on macOS (I have a few). I also got requests for Linux ! Yes, it's a small percentage but if I had support for Linux, I had advantaged. Without support for Linux, users will compare only features and any advantage is good. And finally, in past we had Linux support (unfortunately very dated to be considered) and for Harman, seems that, this where they are specialist, so it seems possible, cheaper to do and very realistic. Have Linux it's not a blocker issue comparing to macOS and specially compared to Windows but I would pay only for that (on a reasonable fee for me). I already pay a fee for my IDE and other tools ! I'm using the dated AIR 30 because there is no reason at all to release a major update because everything seems to focus only on mobile and for sure I will not pay to Harman if there is 0 innovation on desktop or it's not relevant for me ! For last but not least, seems that some folks get used to think small. I understand, Adobe teach you on that way. ... View more

Support for Linux is a crazy thing !? Are you serious ? ... View more

rewb0rn​ Have an opinion, oppositive of yours and don't follow the flock, it's spoil it ? Are you afraid of something ? You if look carefully, you will see that you are wrong (at least about my self). I became more actively on the last few months but I use AIR for years. I started with Flash/Flex for Web and get rid of it many years ago (Adobe fault). I started with AIR/Flex for Mobile since first beta version (loved it) and getting rid right now (Adobe fault). Unfortunately, I still depend on AIR/Flex for Desktop (that's not a priority for Adobe and seems not for the new father), so I still use the version 30. I don't have anything against AIR but only the Adobe managing the runtime and don't give support (completed abandon this official forum). This is not normal. And if you look carefully, you will find in recently posts, that I told that this final move have a tinny and very delayed chance to AIR but it's a chance so my speech is not always the same like you stated. ... View more

So, you just confirm what I said before. AIR, it's in maintenance mode. ... View more

Seems that their primary focus is Android. Why use AIR then !? ... View more

I also believe that's now, AIR have a chance (very tiny and very late, but a chance). Anyway, I will not bet my chips on it and as said somewhere I'm already on the journey of Xamarin (doing right now ) and it's a joy. No more worries about a dying platform and C# it's such a beautiful and powerfull language (generics, etc, etc ...). ... View more

I don't believe that criticism would be worst for AIR right now because almost no one talk about AIR. It's a room with just a few guys, period (unfortunately but seems that some dudes don't want to face the reality and remove their head from the sand). On a very basic search on google for "top mobile frameworks 2019" (I don't even dare to mention top web and that's one of the big issues) and you will find 0 mentions about Adobe AIR. Not so long (a few years ago) and before AIR enter on maintenance mode, you would find mentions to AIR and on the top 1 or 2. You will find now Xamarin, Flutter and a lot of JS libraries. Xamarin is currently, the most stable, reliant, mature and performance almost native. Flutter is promising however is a alpha product, for now (on my opinion) and there are almost no libraries (it's a fact). JS libraries on mobile, well, I don't need to mention a lot but it's like a car on a river (just stupid but it's my opinion). ... View more

The project is called Blazer. It allow to compile C# code to WebAssembly and also interact natively with HTML/JS. They were doing internally as experience/evaluation of the project during an year and recently became official with Preview 1, so it's not more an idea and it's the next target for .NET. The buzz word is WebAssembly but for me it's Flash 2.0 accept by community and pre-built with the browser. Seems the future. MS did a good job with Blazer and I would not surprised if we see in the future something like Java/WebAssembly and other languages. So, AS3 (or AS4) compiled to WebAssembly it's the only way that I can see hope to became relevant again but time to market define who we will remember tomorrow and with the focus on specific Mobile and so specific on Android, it's hard to believe on this. AIR updated more for Android, removes the strengths of AIR. ... View more

Microsoft is doing that. They call Blazor. I didn't have investigated so much (it's a not final product iet), however seems that you will be able to use C# on the client side and compile to WebAssembly. How cool is that ? Flash was a plugin for the browser, opening a runtime (desktop power) on the browser. WebAssembly seems that same that already embeded on the browser, so I believe that this may be the future of web programming. Compile to Web Assembly would be a winner even without marketing. ... View more

@ASWC Indeed, in the past, but without Web (dead of Flash) and constant issues related with Mobile, I'm not so sure and yes, Xamarin is focus on Mobile and it's match better on that. @JoãoCésar Flutter makes remind me LISP and the way they release seems that they did in a hurried way (no xml UI). ... View more

"different market" I don't agree on that for Apps (not games). AIR + Flex could be compared with Xamarin for Mobile Apps development. I really don't like Dart either. Dart was a wrong choice and we are talking about it only because of Flutter. Seems more like an alpha product, comparing with Flex and Xamarin simply because there is no UI separation and see a lot of people complaing about the same. After that evaluation, Xamarin win it BUT I believe with a lot of investment it's possible to Flutter get better however Dart it's unattractive and the future about Flutter it's uncertain for now. ... View more

I have many years experience with .NET Framework and C# language and Flex/AIR. I have 0 years of experience with Xamarin. I started a new project with Xamarin this weekend (or better, a new App to totally replace a current one built with AIR) and I can say that, first, I see my self, searching on web for trivial things and a few hours latter I have a complete MVVM working with a blazing performance that I could never got with Flex/AIR on mobile device (I tested on emulator and also native Android device, I didn't have time iet to test on native iOS device). Today I tested the publish to APK and again the performance it's outstanding (no more time to coffe, I can say). I didn't have time to generate IPA so far, but I can say that blowing my mind, with a so simple process about the Visual Studio for Mac. I can go to options, link to my Apple account and it's all done ! With Flex, I have MXML and AS3 that I know very well. With Xamarin, I have XAML and C# and seems that the learning curve is less dramatic than I thought will be, so I can say that I'm glad with my decision. I agree in one thing, is fantastic for mobile devices, however, I can't reuse my code for Desktop and that's the reason I will stay around with AIR for now. ... View more

Linux again, updated to the current version of AIR in Captive Mode (for me 32 bits and shared runtime is unnecessary); WebView component updated (Google Maps inside my App). SQLite upgrade; Toast on Desktop. ... View more

"fan boy right now whose name starts with Z =P" Hehe, in fact ... View more

Yes, this is extreme behavior. Do only thing in tech world extreme that I like is, XP (Xtreme Programming ), so I will let you "stay with the bike" ... View more

I think that you don't carefully read my post and extreme thinking's lead to war and unfortunately, you just prove that. Yes, they took Flash and Flex but it's not their core business and yes also did not know how to manage the community and monetize the tech that they had in hands however it's just tech. It's always the same but just tech. There are plenty reasons to port to another technology and there are good reasons not to do it even on a corporate use case. You should not force anyone to think like you do so you should keep to your self. ... View more

I agree. ... View more

We found this in history of man kind and even now a days (not just software). For instance: Extreme thinking about futebol leads to very strong and ugly fights (I know this very well on my country). But a fair play, leads to a beautiful game and a good time. We can't win always and without an opponent can't even play the game. PS: Sorry if it seems that we are moving away from the topic but it is important and it is related to the current state of AIR and the question posted. ... View more

You have evangelists or if you prefer fundamentalist fanatics or even the buzz word, funboys in everywhere. The devil's lawyer guy (for example @ASWC): On one side, you have who defends that AIR is dead, it's evil and you should not even think of using it. The technology, should be banned for good and after that we shoudl still talk about it (bad things). On the other side (for example @zwetan_uk from here and @zwetan from his blog) you have who defends that AIR it's the best thing that happens in the world and beyond the times and Adobe should be in an altar. This kind of guys, defends there beliefs at all costs and if you try to said something against their god you are the devil and you bet that they will judge you (you evil bastard :D) ... View more

For one hand I have the same opinion as you have. This is one of the reasons that I keep my plan of migrate a mobile AIR to another chosen technology (desktop is another story). Every time I said what I think about AIR, Adobe and AIR support I was also stoned (I don't see this in ANY other kind of technology forum, at least this way. It's called religious fundamentalism or if you prefer funboys). BUT for another hand, we should give same credit to Harman, otherwise you are doing that same that users gave to you all this time. Let's see what will happen. As I'm using AIR only for Desktop and they already said that their focus for now is Android (even iOS is out for now), I will not be one of their customer in a short term. ... View more

I'm not desperate for updates, because my use case is Desktop (I was forced to go away on Mobile for the obvious reasons) however would be nice the have the following on Desktop version: Updates: * Webkit Update (I should be able to open google maps on Windows and macOS without ANE's) * SQLite Update (It is super outdated and you will get new features, bug fixes and performance improvements with a single external dependency updated) New targets: * Add Linux support again, updated and with Captiva Runtime New features: * PDF render/viewer ... View more

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I think we all, lol ... View more

This is the kind of support that is normal to see in any normal forum in the world (how said the opposite probably is in denial or lives in a rock). We have all to many questions and in time we will see but for now I see a positive move. ... View more

"for now I'd suggest using Adobe's SDK v32 for those" Thank you very much to clarify that and I will do that (use the current version). I understand your "roadmap" and look forward to see in a future version improvements on the desktop counterpart. ... View more

I read somewhere that they will keep the word "Adobe" but on contrary, I would change the all name and logo "if that would be possible". AIR is related with Adobe and Flash and there is a huge negativity around it (I don't need to describe why, we all know very well the reasons). ... View more

I agree @Leo, a lot of developers jumped out (I can't blame them). @federicor, I doubt that one that managed to came out, will ever back. Even me that I have a small mobile App with this news, will jump out (the decision was made before). But I have a big desktop application, so there is no prediction to leave AIR. Even so, I'm aware of other options to leave AIR but it's not easy: 1. Apache Royale - Jewels (maybe but it's not an easy way); 2. Apache Royale - MX/Spark Emulation (the best solution but is very alpha product to be considered) - I tested this one; 3. HAXE - perhaps this is the way - I need to manage time to evaluate first but I read that a folks managed to do that so I believe that this is the one; 4. HTML5 - No way, no. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate HTML5/JS and use a lot for Web. Meanwhile, I will continue to use AIR on Desktop where is stable (on contrary to Android/iOS that are hostages of marketplaces rules that are changing all the time). ... View more