Phos±four dots wrote: I'm not saying anything about his skills as a coder, because they appear to be fairly prodigious. That's not the issue. But I feel very strongly that his social reasoning as it pertains to hosting duties does not fit the nature of these forums. <snipped> Simply reply here with a "Yes" or a "I Agree." I agree... ... View more

jochemd wrote: I do. The OP of http://forums.adobe.com/thread/470150 should not have his thread degenerate into some discussion about the smell of cat food. Nor should http://forums.adobe.com/thread/475900 be used as a straw man for jabs at that we would all like to send to Jive or Adobe management, who don't read here anyway Get off your high horse... the OPs question was answered / was pointed in the right direction. If some of the members of this forum get into a bit of light-hearted banter, what's the problem. Same applies to your second example. For god's sake, this is not the soulless Third Reich! Nor the erstwhile Soviet Union!! Nor the People's Republic of China!!! Nor, most certainly, George Orwell's, "1984". Give it a break... people come in, answer questions.. something leads to something... there's a bit of kidding around. Kill that, you kill the forums. Haven't you been able to read between the lines? And see the general complaint? These forums were a kind of home, a meeting place where folks interacted, laughed and joshed and in the process passed on / imparted invaluable information. Your attitude is killing that. It's become: Question Answer Shut UP (In this regard, one eminent mod, locked a thread i initiated as answered. I protested. He, graciously enough reopened the thread. My real answers came in subsequently. My point is: How dare he arbitrarily lock the thread in the first place?) Well, my friend you're effectively shutting off all interaction and ruining the atmosphere with your Hitlerian behaviour. Heil!!! ... View more

Ansury wrote: "Laissez-faire" style moderation is best. Quite... Unfortunately, as in cases such as this, the exercise of authority is inversely proportionate to the self-confidence of the moderator. ... View more

Q Photo wrote: When I see the likes of John Joslin and Dave Milbut being criticized here I lose all hope.  Those two, and many others, that now are gone, have contributed so much to these forums that Adobe should be paying them. This was a truly great forum.  We, the users, did not make this change.   Adobe did.  Some say blame Jive.  If Adobe picked Jive then the fault still lies with Adobe.  One thing is for sure, we did not ruin this forum.  We loved it too much. Q Beautifully put Q. Not just the para i've quoted in my reply but the whole post. However, over and above all else, the bit i'm quoting from Q is the crux of the issue. Adobe (and / or their extensions) are blaming us for the noise to signal ratios and all sorts of other garbage. The point as Q says is: 1/ Pre April 2009.... all hunky dory and everyone coexisting... web users as well as NNTP users. I never saw any hassles there as some people claim. For DW and PS it was NNTP. For Illustrator it was Web. Why? <shrug> It worked for me... the WebX was fast and you were taken to the first unread post in a thread. For DW and PS, the sheer volume of posts made NNTP easier and more relevant. 2/ Post April 2009. 'Nuff said. The fault clearly is not with the users... Therefore... it must lie elsewhere... no? Cheers... (The other) JJ ... View more

Fr. Watson wrote: I will now add that you are childish (IMO) You left out pompous – i feel... so would that be 'childishly pompous' or 'pompously childish'? The latter me thinks.... ... View more

jochemd wrote: I could have. I didn't. I will continue not to do so in the future. I am after all a poor, heavy handed host. Understatement of the year! ... View more

jochemd wrote: 5. I deleted a thread in which the originator of thread 4 started name-calling. There was no name calling... If the person in question had a name not easily rememberable –  by me – i fail to see how it is name calling... Perhaps, i should have checked the fora for his real name... but <shrug>. In any event, you could well have remedied the situation by spelling out the name and asking me to kindly use the correct name in future. That is 'Moderation'. A behaviour that is meant to be practised by a 'Moderator'. Your high-handed actions are definitely not those of a Moderator. They are high-handed and your tone is pompous. Definitely not conducive to be respected as a Moderator. If you wish to delete this post kindly go ahead. You have my full permission. PS: Captiv8r shows, far more, the qualities of a good moderator. ... View more

Captiv8r wrote: Hi Jay I believe this particular forum has been a bit on the wild side. Quite... driven to despair by the state of the forums and sheer indifference of Adobe. There are some Adobe foks like John C and Kanguyen who are making a definite attempt. However, my feeling is too little, too late. Matters are definitely not helped by hosts arbitrarily locking and / or delteting threads. There was a moderator called Zoro or Zero or something... he vanished after a while and now we have 'Kid Deleter'...I posted a comment earlier about this and it just vanished. Without even a by-your-leave. The pomposity of these guys... There are always other ways to steer things back on track. ... View more