Re: SDK newby, Building my first sample – no go...

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 29, 2012

Romano, Adobe recommends XCode 3.1.3 for Indesign plugin devlopment. I would recommend you go through the dev environment specs by Adobe before starting the development. Secondly could you specify what error are you getting while trying to build from the XCode IDE. And regarding the Debug and Release versions of Indesign, these are two versions of Indesign. Development is recommended on Debug version as it provides more debugging info and support that helps the developer. But it is difficult to get hold of the debug version, i suppose you need to a solution partner to adobe for getting it. However you can develop on release version too, you just need to create the release build of your project, though surely you will lack debugging features in this build. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 20, 2012

Make sure you are using the correct version of Indesign to load your plugin, for ex: CS5 plugins are not compatible with CS5.5 and vice versa. Secondly you can debug plugin's using release version of Indesign too, you just need to create the debugging symbols for it. There are restricted debugging support on the release build, in this case you just need to look into the gdb console for any messages. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 20, 2012

Try loading the release plugin of any sample plugin that ships with Indesign SDK on the deployment machine. If that loads on that machine, then either there is a problem in the project setting of your project or there is some dependency for the plugin to load that you are missing. Last thing you could do is install Xcode on the machine and try to debug the problem. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 20, 2012

Does the plugin have a dependency on any third party framework, does this release plugin load on your development machine? Manan Joshi

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 20, 2012

No it is not necessary to create an installer for the plugin, unless it does not have a dependecny on something that needs to be copied onto the deployment machine. What kind of error are you getting? It might be because you may be using a third party framework which you are not copying onto the new machine. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 16, 2012

You had mentioned that you are using, CS5.5 sdk with Indesign CS5. However if you are using the correct sdk then take a look at the project settings of sdk samples and match them with your project settings. Some points to take note are. 1. Check that you are using the debug version of frameworks and static libs. 2. The "debug" flag is set for the odfrc command to compile the .fr file 3. the "debug" is set for the cpp compiler too. Try to load the sample plugins and then have a look at the settings. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 16, 2012

This works for me fine, don't you get the correct no of selected items? What is the result of GetPageUID. You could also check the boss class of the IHierarchy interface you are using to be sure that it is indeed of the pageitem. Manan Joshi

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 16, 2012

For CS5 you need to use the CS5 SDK, CS5 and CS5.5 sdk are not compatible. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 15, 2012

You can use the release builds, select to build the release target of your project and then try to load. Debug builds has benefits for the developer as it has many debugging tools and also helps get warnings and asserts that are helpful to catch the errors. But to download the debug version you need to be a solution partner i suppose. However you can do debugging in release builds too, but the results of stepping might be somewhat wrong and all. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 15, 2012

If you are writing this code inside the CSB method then you can query for "ILayoutTarget" interface that has "GetUIDList" method which will give you the UIDList of the selected page item. From this you can get the UIDRef of the selected pageitem, which can be quried to get the correct iHierarchy interface. If you are writing this code outside CSB method then write a method in the CSB to get the UIDRef of the selected page item and do as before. Hope this is not very confusing. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 15, 2012

This would return a null interface as you did not query the interface from any boss class, you need to get this interface from the selected pageitem's boss class. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 15, 2012

This works for me fine, maybe the interface that you are sending is not correct. UID 0 represents the document if i remember correctly. See the code that you are using to get the IHierarchy interface. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 15, 2012

You should call it like iLayoutUtils->GetOwnerPageUID(IHierarchy, kFalse); Where IHierarchy is the interface of the pageitem, if you use querychild then you are moving into the pageitem like for ex in to the image in a pageitem. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 15, 2012

i think you need to write ::InnerToParentMatrix instead of InnerToParentMatrix. Manan Joshi

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 14, 2012

if you wrote the code in accordance to what Pickory had hinted then the PMRect itself has the the top() method that will give you the X coordinate of the top left corner And for the 2nd question you will can use the method "GetOwnerPageUID" in the "ILayoutUtils", but this method will return the UID of the spread if the pageitem does not lie on a page so make a check for that too. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 13, 2012

What exactly do you want, from what i see from Pickory's code is you are trying to get the height of the bounding box of the current selection in the layout. For ex if you have three image boxes selected you need the height of the bounding box that encloses all these image boxes. Kindly clarify so that we can provide better pointers for the solution. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Feb 03, 2012

As Dirk rightly pointed out, you need to place an observer in the kAppBoss and observe on the IID_IAPPLICATION protocol. What you should do is just place an interface as an addin in the kAppBoss and give it an implementation (you don't need to create a observer boss class as you have done). In startup call the autoattach of your observer, for ex InterfacePtr<IApplication> app(gSession->QueryApplication()); InterfacePtr<IObserver> iMyObserver(app, IID_IMYOBSERVER); iMyObserver->AutoAttach(); In the autoattach method of your implementation class, remember to pass your observers interface ID to the attachobsever method of the ISubject for ex AttachObserver(this, IID_IAPPLICATION, IID_IMYPOBSERVER); Then in the update method you will get properly notified of the suspend and resume of application This should fix your problem. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Jan 29, 2012

In order to create your own selection suites you need to follow the following steps. 1. Create an interface for the selection suite and place it as an AddIn in the IntegratorSuite and the suite boss that you need to extend. Like for layout you could use the kLayoutSuiteBoss. 2. The implementation for the interface added in the IntegratorSuite will be the ASB implementation, the code for this is pretty much templated, refer SDK sample code to have an idea about it. 3. The implementation for the interface added in the other suite boss will be the CSB implementation. Inside this class you can write the code specfic to your needs. Regading the call on this code and how do you get your code executed, first you will have to get the selection manager interface which is generally obtained from the activeselection but there are other ways too refer the SDK for it. From this selectionmanager interface query the interface of your suite and if your suite is available you can call it's method else you will get a nill pointer. I think this should make it pretty much clear, for more clarifications refer the SDK samples and the programming guide. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Jan 18, 2012

could you provide some more details on what exactly are you trying to ask. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Jan 10, 2012

For pageitem dimension you can use the IGeometry interface of the pageitem, for the image name you will have to traverse the hierarchy of the pageitem to find whether it contains any child or not. And to test whether your selection works or not query your selection interface from the active selection and call methods you have written inside it to see if you get the correct results. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Jan 09, 2012

Yes this looks right on track, you need to create ASB and CSB for your selection suites and also make their entries in the fr file. In your case for layout selection you will place the ASB entry as an addin in the kIntegratorSuiteBoss and the CSB as addin in the kLayoutSuiteBoss class. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Jan 09, 2012

You will have to create your own selection suite and then get the selected page items. Once you get the selected pageitems UIDRef you can check for all the properties like its type, page it lies on etc. You will have to look into the sdk for different methods to get this information. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Jan 05, 2012

This is a scripting issue, post it in the Scripting forum to get quick and better response. That forum is highly active and you are in with a more better chance of getting your scripting question answered over there. Manan Joshi.

Manan Joshi · ‎Jan 05, 2012

Hello Cropas, That is a good summary of steps given by you, but using this approach we will only be able to create an observer for the button and not the text field i suppose. If we place an observer in the panel it can be used for every widget on the panel. So i suppose the previous path that was proposed is altogehter a different route than just creating an observer for button widget. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Jan 05, 2012

that will do i suppose.

Manan Joshi · ‎Jan 05, 2012

Looking at code does not show any error as such, it would take less time if you could share the project with all the files, so that i can debug the project when i have time. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Jan 05, 2012

On noticing your code i figured one problem in it, replace your implemetationID form "IID_BUTTONACTIONOBSERVER" to "IID_IOBSERVER", because you get call on observers only if the implementationID is "IID_IOBSERVER" for other ID's you need to explicitly call your observer's AutoAttach method. Try this and let me know if you get any ahead. I hope this should solve your problem. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Jan 03, 2012

As you have not added the observer to monitor anything there won't be any call made to the update and nothing will happen, only the observer constructor is called and that is the behaviour that you are observing. What you need to make sure first is that are you getting the call on the AutoAttach or not? Because this method must be called to attach the observer to the subjects. So what you have written must surely be in the AutoAttach method, but things will work only when this method gets called, Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Jan 03, 2012

On the first look the approach looks good, but one thing that i observed wrong in this code is that you must inherit your observer from CObserver not the IObserver interface. As if you use IObserver you won't have the basic functionality that every interface does have in Indesign like the Queryinterface method. In addition to this change your Observer constructor will also change and call the base class constructor with proper argument, refer the SDK it has lot of examples of it. Once you get the code compiled then lets me know if you manage to get your observer called or not. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

Manan Joshi · ‎Jan 03, 2012

That list looks good, i hope by 3 point you have done something as i have postulated in the previous post in this thread. When all is done you can check whether you are getting the call in your observer's autoattach on not when you load your panel. if you get the call then you are on the right path. The next thing that remains then is to just attach the observer to the buttons and the textfield on the panel. Manan Joshi - Efficient InDesign Solutions - MetaDesign Solutions http://metadesignsolutions.com/services/indesign-development.php

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