Just a warning. If you are taking payments, (credit/debit card) via email, for online purchases from a web site in the EU, then from September what you are doing becomes illegal. This is because you will be by-passing the 'strong' on-line payments procedure that banks and credit companies must implement by law. Not going through a payment gateway, (or your own authorised payment procedure) for any transactions on-line, invalidates not just your clients insurance, in the event of credit/debit card misuse, (by anyone) but also makes the developer partly responsible for implementing such. For more info follow the link in - https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2640722 ... View more

osgood_  wrote Im outta here now. lve put my point across, hopefully as it contains nothing hugely offensive it wont be deleted, thats all l have to say on the matter. I'll be sorry to see you go Os. That said, there has only been 6 none Dw specific topics posted in the last 8 days, and those are either very basic knowledge, or asking for opinions. I don't have a problem with anyone,, (I disgree with what has been happening though) but I have noticed that opinions have become very polarised over the last few years. Which I blame on Dw itself, and the advancements in web development that Dw has failed to keep up with. Even asking the Dw team for 'clarification' on Dw's future and intended user, has brought nothing except silence, (the blog post said nothing, except 'waffle'). One of the reasons, (amongst many)I decided to 'hand back' my acp, was that many thought the Dw forum should only answer questions relating to Dw itself, and not anything to do with code, which to me renders this forum obsolete, as Dw specific problems should be handled by Adobe support. It looks as though those who objected to answering code questions, have won by default anyway. As for me leaving, there is almost nothing for me in the forum questions anyway, so again it will probably be a 'no longer requirerd' situation. ... View more

You can do it with most server side languages. MS do it with C# in their earth view plug-in for .net. NASA have a similar 'space view' that uses gif images with .net. I have even looked at a js api for doing it, that required no server side, (cannot remember if that one transfered to another browser though). ... View more

jonathans63390257  wrote If you don't know what WHMCS is I'm inclined to think that Dreamweaver 2019 may not support it, as shocking as that seems. Does Dreamweaver 2019 not support WHMCS site development based on HTML5 & bootstrap? I think you will find that very few code editors, (if any) support WHMCS template on-line editing. Dw, like all code editors can edit html, css, js files, but doing so whilst connected on-line to the server, is like asking for a code editor to be used as a 'dashboard' for an application. You could submit a feature request, as there has been a number of posts in which users have expressed surprise that Dw is not able to act as a cms dashboard. But, I would be surprised if such a feature was implemented. ... View more

oddlittlefox  wrote To my knowledge, the things I think I need from WP are free If what you want to do is free from WP, then it would be better to ask either the providers of the 'free' solutions, or those that have used them. No one in web development knows everything, and all we can tell you in this forum is what we personally know. ... View more

Theoretically you can do what you wish. Practically, it would take a very good working knowledge of html, css, js, wordpress and possibly php. Your first problem starts with XD, as there was no consideration made durring its development of it working with Dw. That means you would have to examine the code it produces then translate it to 'standard' html, css, js files, in order to use it in Dw. Then you would have to know how to 'plug' those files into working wordpress themes, (child or main). Having done that, a good working knowledge is required of the wordpress file structure in order to 'place' and link each file type correctly into the correct locations in wordpress. ... View more

osgood_  wrote pziecina   wrote Over the last 7 or so years the amount of data developers/designers are expecting end users to download has increased beyond all expectations, with the average site now transfering over 2.5 Mb on initial page load, with much of it going unused, and many developers ignorant of, or with a 'do not care' attitude to page weight. That would be my stand point of view. Rather than face up to poor workflows we actually openly embrace them simply because they can be hidden as a result of enhanced modern server/browser technologies. If there was some honesty in all  this I could accept that but its the pretence that somewhat concerns me. The problem is that the internet no longer has the infrastructure to allow designers/developers to ignore page weight, as they are currently doing. It is no use saying that one can download 'x' amount of data, in a shorter time if the infrastructure, (be that server, internet infrastructure, broadband/mobile connection) cannot support it. No matter how one recons it transfering 'x' amount of data, means transfering 'x' amount of data, and the more data and users there are, the more data must be transfered. Even the practice of keeping a connection open uses data, as the browser -><- server connection must be maintained, which requires periodic checking by the server/browser. The answer by many does appear to be, that the technology will keep up, even when the w3c and the internet regulatory board, (in the USA) says it will not. No one wants to pay extra for faster 'prime time' connections, but the blame for the possible requirement lays firmly with the developers/designers who continue to ignore the problem, and use excessive (code weight) solutions. ... View more

For any reader who does not know the differences between  http2, and normal http, a quick overview can be read at - https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/performance/http2/ ... View more

You did miss the point Birnou. There is no point in advocating the use of http2, unless we also discuss the amount of data a site is transfering. Not to consider the use of http2 from the end users point, (the site user not Dw user, site developer) is to only have a selected benefits, (or not) discussion, without discussing the one person that matters most, (site/app end user). Over the last 7 or so years the amount of data developers/designers are expecting end users to download has increased beyond all expectations, with the average site now transfering over 2.5 Mb on initial page load, with much of it going unused, and many developers ignorant of, or with a 'do not care' attitude to page weight. ... View more

BenPleysier  wrote osgood_   wrote BenPleysier    wrote I don't think that the server supports PHP. It does however serve HTTP/2 Im hoping this is just a test server and being as though the pages dont look like they will be verbosely populated with 20-30 unnecessary calls to bloated js plugins and redundant css files http2 will be irrelevant. Showing your ignorance once again? (referring to HTTP/2) Actually the question of the relevance of http2, that Osgood has said is 'irrelevant', is a good one and probably worthy of its own discussion. The one big advantage of http2, used to be the number of simultanious connections between the browser and server(s), (note the inclussion of (s)). With websites getting bigger, the number of them ever increasing, the increase in cdn usage, the increase in internet services and users, and the increase in video/film media, the question becomes not just how many simultanious files the browser can download, but one of how many servers can handle, and the devices accessing those servers download speeds. Or to put it simply, the more files transfered, the slower everything becommes. Even 5 years ago the w3c admitted that unless something radical was done about the amount of data being transfered over the internet, the speeds expected even with the planned increase in server/cables/satellites, (insert your own list of ways to transfer data) cannot be maintained into the 2020's. ... View more

Don't worry Os, next year the process will be reviewed to see if it can be made simpler. There is also the banks position regarding on-line payment fraud to consider then. In that if the site supports old unsecure browsers, and that browser is used for a transaction that is later reported as a fraudulant use, the site concerned will be held partially responsible for allowing the fraud. It will probably only apply to card processing services like worldpay and Paypal or large enterprises processing their own payment, but it is unclear if the site sending the customer to these payment gateways will also carry some blame, (share the costs). It's a good time to be retired. As even for small sites the legal responsibilities have grown way beyond those that small site developers can possibly keep pace with. ... View more

osgood_  wrote My philosophy is stick with the crowd, they can't all be wrong and learn the most popular current workflows, I'm still looking for a job like the one for the NHS years ago. The one where the government invested £10 billion in the production of a standardised app that would connect everyone in the NHS via the internet, and the director, (a nurse) was paid over £7 million just because she had built her own website. That would be the crowd to go with. I can dream, can't I . Just for those who do not know - The entire project was scrapped. ... View more

Os, Don't know if you are aware but Panic are due to announce their new code editor, (I think the previous one was years old 'Coda' or something like that). ... View more

I've got it down to the point I am trying to make, (took me a while, but put it down to old age please ). All these workflows, methods of coding, etc, etc, have at some point been just 'niche' workflows etc. Used by just a few thousand people, at some point they have become 'standard' in the developers toolbox, justified or not, (which would be a personal opinion). How did they get to be 'standard'. Was it just because programs like Dw, included them or was it because of VS Code having an extension for them that made them 'standards', (this also applies to vue, jQuery, and anything else one can think of). At some point in a developers career, (if they are serious, which is looking like less and less likely) the use of any or all of those 'standards' may not be allowed, or even worse decline so far in usage that even mentioning them gets one a negative opinion. Just like any profession, web development is evolving, and to concentrate or specialise in anything can, (probably will) result in a decline in work. As w3c standard html, css, ecma6, etc are all moving into the areas of what just a few years ago required frameworks and/or librarys to do. Saying that something only has a few thousand users, is no longer relevant, even something with millions of users is no guarantee of a future. Even the type of workflow one uses, is evolving, and I have seen it become a more standardised workflow, comparable with a regulated ISO one when it comes to large enterprise sites/apps, which hopefully will at some point filter down to the smaller site/app creators. Anyone for a ISO standards for web development discussion? (BTW - ISO standards do apply to some web sites/apps anyway). ... View more

osgood_  wrote This is fast become completely non-sensical. As a developer you would hope you start off with a recognised workflow be that php, css, asp, vue, react, angular, vanilla javascript, jquery, wordpress, bootstrap, to name but a few, one hopefully which has garnered a lot of use by developers worldwide, is open source, which generally means it becomes more widely spread, therefore making it popular within the industry, which in turn makes finding an exponent much simpler for a client should needs be. That's the problem, even though I agree that many frameworks and other librarys are used by developers. I do not agree with them being used just because the developer thinks they are a 'quick and easy' method. I cannot see any difference between wordpress, angular, bootstrap for site creation and site builders like wix, etc. As they all try to hide the exessive code used, behind an 'ease of use' claim. The same also applies for me when it comes to behaviours or 'effects' (be that animations or simple roll overs). A recognised workflow for code, should only be html, css, js and the server side requirements. With the all of them, including server-side being limited to 'what is required' not a 'throw it all in' approach. The argument that all users have fast, unmetered internet connections, may be true for many, but not all. So downloading frameworks or whatever should I think, still be the exception but has become the rule for many. Even the 'it is cached by the browser' justification, is no longer true for the majority. As mobile devices once again are going back to the 4Mb total for the all sites cache limit  (It did go up to 8Mb, but some had only 2Mb). ... View more

How am I charging a premium, and abusing the clients lack of knowledge. Surerly it is you using code that is not required, (vue) in the first place, just to do a simple animation that has caused the problem. I'm simply using what the w3c says to use, and not 3rd party code? ... View more

To add to Jons reply. If you have had the problem you described in this thread since the site going live - https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2639702 Then all search engines would have seen on your site is the menu. This is because search engines now look at sites from a mobile device perspective first. If they do not see any content, (for whatever reason) then they will give the site a very low ranking. ... View more