This happens on both my wacoms with WIndows INK on both my computers and has been so for years through multiple versions of photoshop and many reinstalls. So I doubt it is my preferences. Do you have a wacom Cintiq?, using Windows INK and esc when using Polygonal Lasso tool works perfectly? I think this problem is very easy for Wacom to reproduce.    I think its based on a similar issue as the space to pan canvas while using polygonal lasso doesnt work very well, which wacom managed to reproduce themselves. - using keyboard while making a selection is just buggy.  Its just the implementation of WIndows INK in Photoshop which is not so good.  ... View more

@Aleke Great! thats awesome news. Maybe you could see if you can reproduce the other bug I shared as well then. I believe its probably a very similar issue. That zooming and moving the canvas with the mouse switching back and forth mouse and pen, is often causing issues.  Im unable to attach txt document, it says txt. doc it unsupported, so pasting it in here: Adobe Photoshop Version: 26.2.0 20241207.r.140 bc85906 x64 Number of Launches: 135 Operating System: Windows 11 64-bit Version: 11 or greater 10.0.26100.2894 System architecture: AMD CPU Family:15, Model:8, Stepping:1 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, AVX-512, HyperThreading Physical processor count: 32 Logical processor count: 64 Processor speed: 3994 MHz Built-in memory: 130570 MB Free memory: 83761 MB Memory available to Photoshop: 103432 MB Memory used by Photoshop: 70 % Crash Handler: Adobe DCX Version: 7.24.8 SAM SDK Version: 9.1.0.1-fio ACP.local Status: - SDK Version: 4.0.0.5 - Core Sync Status: Reachable and compatible - Core Sync Running: 7.4.0.31 - Min Core Sync Required: 4.3.66.28 Live Edit Client SDK Version: 4.0.6 Adobe Firefly: Please use any generative AI feature to view the latest version. 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from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/UXP/Extensions\com.adobe.substance-3d.viewer.ps\" IC popup message (Loaded) 1.0.0.0 Loaded at: 7740 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Multilayer Protection (Loaded) 1.0.0.0 Loaded at: 7741 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Discover Panel (Loaded) 2409.109.1.2 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 9875 ms - launch time impact: 17 ms Neural Filters (Registered) 1.15.0.102 - from the file "Required Folder" Scan time: 1 ms - entries: 34 Extensions: Libraries 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_4_8_173\index.html” com.adobe.capture.extension 2.0.41 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_4_8_173\extensions\capture\capture.html” com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing-embedded 4.0.35 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_4_8_173\extensions\stock-panel-licensing\index.html” Coolorus 2․5 2.5.17 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\com.moongorilla.coolorus2\index.html” FX Box 1.1.0 - from the file “C:\Users\joach\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CEP\extensions\fx_box.extension\index.html” Export As 4.8.16 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2025\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html” Renamy 5.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\Renamy\index.html” Export As 4.8.16 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2025\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html” com.adobe.cclibraries.manager 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_4_8_173\manager.html” Installed TWAIN devices: NONE ... 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Hi @Aleke I just tried now, with WinTab there's no problems with panning while doing polygonal lasso. But with Windows ink it is a problem. I happened before on my previous Cintig Pro 24. And now also with my Cintiq pro 27 and also on my other machine which has a cintiq pro 24. I hop it's a bug you can reproduce and fix, because using WinTab is slower/less responsive and not a good solution in the long run.  ... View more

I have the latest wacom drivers and I use Windows INK. Though, as mentioned for the mouse problem. Its when you switch from using the tablet and then suddenly start using the mouse the bug appear. For the polygonal lasso tool Im not sure if it's the driver or just a bug in photoshop, but I will do a test and switch to Wintab and see if it works better 🙂 ... View more

Im not sure I'm able to film it, because you would need to see me clicking space bar as well. I'm currently on the latest version, but it has been a problem for many versions. It's while using a tablet. There are a couple of problems with a tablet and photoshop, and this is one of them. It happens on both my PC's also before I reinstalled, so I think it's a problem with my setup alone.  These are the main bugs I experience when using my Cintiq 24 and now Cintiq 27. Im on a PC using Photoshop 26.2.0.  -Polygonal lasso tool and spacebar(move). It's only with this tool. half the time when I start selecting and want to move the canvas, it doesn't work so I have to cancel the selection and start over.  -Often when using a mouse together with the tablet, the zoom (holding z and scrub) with the mouse doesn't work problerly, THe image start shaking like crazy or zoom out maximum amount, instantly. But when zooming with the pen it works again.  ... View more

Yeah you are right. I don't know why, maybe its the latest update. But even though I have defaulted [compName].[fileExtension] it just keeps it blank now. I think it might be because the folder Im rendring to has some premission problems. So it seems it's not After Effects problem.  thanks for the help ... View more

Yeah, but I noticed AE has stopped crossing off the render box in the render queue when I add a composition to render, which it didn't to before. Weird, but then I know why. Thanks! ... View more

Hi,  I can test the beta. But to answer your questions: Original document is stored on my machine internal drive, I never use cloud. or external. I have two machines, with different up to date system it is lagging a lot more on both. I turned off GPU compositing and and on and it didn't make a noticeable difference. To give you an example of stuff I experiecence, rescaling large smart objects, its slow so when I rescale I have to wait until reaches the scale I dragged the mouse, its slow and if I release before its finished it can suddenly scale it in a different size than desired. Also doing other transform with large layers often gives a lot longer processing wait time than before.  In general it works fine, but Photoshop is just more laggy than it was before.  Here are my system info: Adobe Photoshop Version: 25.7.0 20240415.r.504 130b225 x64 Number of Launches: 509 Operating System: Windows 11 64-bit Version: 11 or greater 10.0.22631.3527 System architecture: AMD CPU Family:15, Model:8, Stepping:1 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, AVX-512, HyperThreading Physical processor count: 32 Logical processor count: 64 Processor speed: 3994 MHz Built-in memory: 130570 MB Free memory: 83761 MB Memory available to Photoshop: 103432 MB Memory used by Photoshop: 70 % Crash Handler: Adobe DCX Version: 7.13.2 SAM SDK Version: 7.7.0-fio ACP.local Status: - SDK Version: 3.4.0 - Core Sync Status: Reachable and compatible - Core Sync Running: 7.1.2.2 - Min Core Sync Required: 4.3.66.28 Live Edit Client SDK Version: 4.0.4 Open Color IO version: 2.3.2 C2PA library version: adobe_c2pa/0.7.6-2 c2pa-rs/0.25.2-patch NGL Version: 1.37.0.8 Chalkboard: Disabled. D3D12Warp renderer: Disabled. Alias Layers: Disabled. Highbeam: Enabled. 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Photoshop Version: Adobe Photoshop 25.7.0 20240415.r.504 130b225 x64 C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2024\sniffer.exe -baseTimeMS=25162560 -comment=Photoshop Version: Adobe Photoshop 25.7.0 20240415.r.504 130b225 x64 {62 ms} Start platform native # displays: 2 Display 0 Display: \\.\DISPLAY1 Main: TRUE Built in: FALSE Stereo: FALSE Bounds: (0, 0) -> (3,840, 2,160) Dimensions: (3,840 2,160) Display scale: 1.5 Physical size: (0 0) Pixel size: (0 0) Dynamic range: (0 1) Attached Device: (DeviceID name=NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 index=0) Display 1 Display: \\.\DISPLAY2 Main: FALSE Built in: FALSE Stereo: FALSE Bounds: (3,840, 0) -> (7,680, 2,160) Dimensions: (3,840 2,160) Display scale: 2 Physical size: (0 0) Pixel size: (0 0) Dynamic range: (0 1) Attached Device: (DeviceID name=NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 index=0) # devices: 1 Device 0 Name: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Preferred: TRUE Power Envelope: UNKNOWN Attachment: UNKNOWN # attached displays: 2 \\.\DISPLAY1 \\.\DISPLAY2 GPU accessible RAM: 24,326 MB VRAM: 24,326 MB Dedicated System RAM: 0 MB Shared System RAM: 68,456 MB API version: 12.0 (12.0) Device version: 12.0 (12.0) Vendor name: NVIDIA Driver date: 2024-04-11 000000.000000-000 Driver age: 1 month Driver version: 31.0.15.5222 Supports UMA: UNSUPPORTED D3D-ID: 8708 End platform native {201 ms} {201 ms} Start platform OpenGL # 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from the file “GigapixelAIAutomation.8li” Torn Edges 25.7 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Twirl 25.7 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Underpainting 25.7 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Vanishing Point 25.7 - from the file “VanishingPoint.8bf” Variance 25.7 - from the file “statistics.8ba” Water Paper 25.7 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Watercolor 25.7 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Wave 25.7 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” WIA Support 25.7 - from the file “WIASupport.8li” Wind 25.7 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Wireless Bitmap 25.7 - from the file “WBMP.8bi” ZigZag 25.7 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Optional and third party plugins: Exr-IO 2.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2024\Plug-ins\Exr-IO.8bi” Duplicate and Disabled plugins: NONE Plugins that failed to load: NONE Unified Extensibility Platform - Extensions: Home Screen (Loaded) 7.5.0.44 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/UXP/Extensions\com.adobe.ccx.start-7.5.0\" CmdN: 1.19.30 UAB: 2.18.0-4 Loaded at: 127 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms ccx-timeline (Prepared) 3.1.12.0 - from the file "Required Folder" CCX Commenting UXP Webview (Loaded) 30.7.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 8442 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms CCX Sharesheet UXP (Prepared) 30.8.1.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Content Credentials (Loaded) 0.42.17.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 7663 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms CC Libraries Panel (Prepared) 4.5.225.0 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/CEP/Extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_4_5_225\" CAPTURE: 2.0.41 STOCK: 4.2.2 In app notifications (Loaded) 2.0.11.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 8444 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Parametric Filter (Loaded) 0.1.8.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 8445 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Photoshop Adjustments Panel (Loaded) 2.2.1.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 8447 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Photoshop UXP Export-As (Prepared) 5.8.37.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Photoshop In App Messaging (Loaded) 4.3.11.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 8448 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Information Alert (Prepared) 0.5.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Photoshop Selection Feedback (Prepared) 0.5.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Plugins Panel (Prepared) 1.4.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder" IC popup message (Loaded) 1.0.0.0 Loaded at: 7665 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Multilayer Protection (Loaded) 1.0.0.0 Loaded at: 7666 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Discover Panel (Loaded) 2403.95.0.10 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 8451 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Neural Filters (Registered) 1.15.0.100 - from the file "Required Folder" Scan time: 0 ms - entries: 32 Extensions: Libraries 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_4_5_225\index.html” Coolorus 2․5 2.5.17 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\com.moongorilla.coolorus2\index.html” Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2024\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html” Animator’s Toolbar Pro 1.3.0 - from the file “C:\Users\joach\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CEP\extensions\com.patrickdeen.tatbccp\index.html” Shadowify 1.0.2 - from the file “C:\Users\joach\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CEP\extensions\shadowify\index.html” com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing-embedded 4.0.35 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_4_5_225\extensions\stock-panel-licensing\index.html” com.adobe.capture.extension 2.0.41 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_4_5_225\extensions\capture\capture.html” FX Box 1.1.0 - from the file “C:\Users\joach\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CEP\extensions\fx_box.extension\index.html” Renamy 5.0.0 - from the file “C:\Users\joach\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CEP\extensions\Renamy\index.html” Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2024\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html” com.adobe.cclibraries.manager 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_4_5_225\manager.html” Installed TWAIN devices: NONE   ... 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It's all ready a pluthera of people experiencing slowdown issues despite having different OS's and hardware. SHould they all just be blamed for doing it wrong or have the wrong hardware? Or should Adobe actually try to figure out what is going on and make sure they fix the software so this doesn't occur? I think the latter is rather obvious. It's bad software if the first thing a lot of people should do  problem solving on machines that works perfectly fine on everything else straight after a install?. I have tried now on three machines, It works ok, but the latest photoshop is significantly more laggy on certain tasks than before.....Maybe it is even a common problem for everyone, but you just don't use these features to that extent that you notice it... - thats more likely tome than that everyone is "using" it wrong. In my experience, a lot of the times when more than a couple of people have reported such problems like this, there's actually been bugs that can be fixed. I wouldn't mind troubleshoot it, but that should be because Adobe wants the data logs, so they can improve photoshop.  ... View more

After doing the things you suggested, things are pretty fine and I can work smoothly again. But there are minor things that have been clogged in the latest release which others here mentioned as well. Like it you have a large smart object and to a scale transform or even something as simple as a crop expand canvas without any genereative expand, just regular transparency expand (on huge files), photoshop now needs to process that. It never did that before. So apparently thats now a more meticulous process for photoshop.  ... View more

How many layers are those 20k images? Hundreds? I suspect it's the new layer auto detection system causing slowdowns. Because I can assure you there's nothing wrong with my hardware.  I don't usually have any problems even with images up to 60-70K pixels. Once I merged down layers to a less amount, it was fine again - which means there must be something not working correctly. And this is not happening in the previous version. Also you see multiple others in this thread reporting the same bad experience, with different hardware than me.  ... View more

FYI I also have a 14900k with same gpu and 128gb of ddr5 memory all ssd's. That's the cpu that is suppose to be the best  cpu on the market for photoshop. I have the same issues there as well. Huge performance decline from previous version. I'm confident this is a issue with photoshop and not my system. And for those that have not experienced it yet they have not worked with heavy enough files yet, on normal sized images there's no difference when I upgraded. The same problem occurred on both my machines and once I downgrade photoshop it's all fine.  Just to answer your questions. Apart from photoshop crashing, I can work on it, the experience is just worse than before. I feel every update has a noticeable slowdown in some regard, which never gets improved. Like a couple of years ago, opening Blur Effects gallery became slower, took more time to open and the UI was less responsive, and never fixed again. THen a while later, opening layer effects (such like drop shadow, inner shadow etc) takes multiple seconds, it didnt before...and never got improved again. I feel the software is getting more and more clogged with every version, instead of optimized.  I have a separate scratch disk of 1tb SSD solely for photoshop. Scratch disk had a 10gb which didn't delete on quit, I deleted it now, will see if that improved anything, thanks for the tip!  I think syntetic tests like your example will not always telle the full truth. It's when I start zoom in, jump from layer to layer, make smart objects, do transform and liquify and warp, etc over and over, it starts to be aparent that the user experience is downgraded.  Drivers for the 4090 is the latest studio driver. THere are no bottlenecks, at least none of my hardware is running on max or anything close. But then again, 80% of photoshop diesn't utilize anything else than a single core.  I will do some more digging, thanks for the tips! ... View more

So, because we get a couple of minor features it is acceptable that my machine can't handle files that have been working fine in previous version?... Even though I turn off these features? ...and notably I have a threadripper 32 core brand new 5 ghz machine with 128 gb DDR 5 memory and only SSD's and a RTX 4090. So basically the best machine you can buy on todays market. ........So in this case, that argument is not valid.  Photoshop gets new features without optimizing what is there, so it gets slower and slower for no good reason. I would understand that a new neural filter or feature that is demanding would require up to date hardware. But UI updates should not make photoshop slower and more demanding, it should be the opposite. Opening Layer effects takes longer than before, transform tool is slower every time and now photoshop even struggle with large files.  ... View more

It is definately slower.! Like me and others mention, transform struggle more in particular. and the progress bar when doing operations last longer. Like if you have a smart object on a large res image, just transform and place requires you to wait while watching a progress bar.  I had a image 7000px wide with around 100 layers, in the latest photoshop it simply crashed every time I started scrub zoom, photoshop quit, without even giving a error message or crash report. It happened consistently. I reverted to the previous version - boom! smooth as butter and no problems zooming. So there's definately diminishing performance.  For those that don't notice this, you probably haven't worked with a large enough image. when the image reaches as certain size/complexity photoshop now struggles - but before that I do not notice anything different either.  ... View more

I'm working on a 8000px image currently, I think the slowdowns becomes more apparent when you are working on large images, since it requires more from the CPU. I turned off the new "show layer bounds" features, all of them, and it's all ready a lot better. But then I wonder why these features are being added, if they are that CPU heavy. ... View more

Purge help some, but its still quite slow. the bigger the project the worse it is. I can't understand why adobe sacrifice UI responsiveness to render preview.  ... View more

I have a Threadripper 3970x with RTX 3090 GPU and 128gb of 2800mhz ram. So its not the fastest single core CPU, but After effect have become slower with the latest updates. Particularly the lagging when moving the keyframes, that the keyframes ends up in a different place is what annoys in me particular. It should have been possible to optimize this for the AE team, because you never really need to generate the previews before you release the keyframe.  ... View more