• Global community
    • Language:
      • Deutsch
      • English
      • Español
      • Français
      • Português
  • 日本語コミュニティ
    Dedicated community for Japanese speakers
  • 한국 커뮤니티
    Dedicated community for Korean speakers
Exit
0

IMac Or PC For 4k editing and 4k animating

Community Beginner ,
Jan 30, 2021 Jan 30, 2021

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

Hey guys! I have a 2013 Macbook pro that I am using for premiere and animate. My computer is quite dated so whenever I edit 4k footage or try to animate in 4k I experience major lag or crashing. That being said, I'm looking for a new computer. I've been with Mac for some time now but I'm not sure if I should switch to building my own PC or get the latest IMac. I'm also unsure of what computer specs are needed to seamlessly work with 4k footage and animation files that wouldn't be an overkill. Please give me some opinions, spec recommendations! I'm a newb and need your brain juices.

TOPICS
Hardware or GPU

Views

196

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Jan 30, 2021 Jan 30, 2021

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

Votes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Jan 30, 2021 Jan 30, 2021

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

What I built last month... YMMV due to the volitility of the component market

 

I don't know why (I will guess that plants closing due to Covid) but the
computer component market is really a mess... by the time I was ready to
order, I sometimes had to switch either suppliers or what I bought - the
final price, not including shipping and taxes, was $1,889

 

160 Motherboard https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Prime-Z490-P/dp/B07ZT3F95V/
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-Z490-P/
I will put the M.2 in the 'lower' M2_1 spot so it won't be near the GTX 1650
Just in case I ever decide to replace the 500Gig with a longer 1Terabyte M.2

 

210 64Gig Ram https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-3200MHz-PC4-25600-Unbuffered-Computer/dp/B086X2FYW9/
The H470 motherboard I was going to buy allowed a maximum membory speed of 2933MHz
This ram is 3200MHz vs 32Gig of 1866MHz ram of my old computer or 1.71 times as fast

 

258 GTX 1650 https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GeForce-128-Bit-Graphics-G165D6AIC1/dp/B08GL81369/
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-GTX-1650-AERO-ITX-4G-OC
This 75watt single fan GTX1650 requires a single 6 pin power cable

 

100 500Gig M.2 https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-FireCuda-Performance-Internal-ZP1000GM30001/dp/B07ZPRRSPX
3450/2500MB/s read/write Win10 and all programs and Documents folder for Microsoft Office
M.2 is 6+ times as fast as SSD 3450/550=6.27 SSD 3+ times as fast as platter 550/150=3.67

 

55 500Gig SSD https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-500GB-Internal-MZ-76E500B-AM/dp/B0781Z7Y3S/
550/520MB/s read/write Temporary and video project files and output video and ISO files

 

90 1T SSD https://www.amazon.com/Blue-NAND-1TB-SSD-WDS100T2B0A/dp/B073SBQMCX/
560/530MB/s read/write All input video and pictures from camera and any extra sound files

 

140 Full Tower Case https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Gaming-Computer-THOR-V2-W/dp/B005XUAAP2
4 fans pre-installed Front 230mm fan Rear 140mm fan Side 230mm fan Top 230mm fan
Does not have a Thunderbolt port... which I don't need
Case DOES have an eSata connection, so I MAY buy a cable to go to my Sata drive dock
to replace the (slower) USB3 connection that I now use to copy files to backup drives
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-External-docking-station-drives/dp/B00U8KSLA8/

 

35 CPU Cooler https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-ACFRE00052A-Freezer-Pressure-Optimised-Technology/dp/B07LGSDQC2
Above link does not have an install picture, the next one does have a picture
Install Pic https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-ACFRE00052A-Freezer-Pressure-Optimised-Technology/dp/B07L9T4YC2
You Tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oW8hSloeqI model 50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCFpxRKMSmk model 34 duo (2 fans) on 1151
The web link on the insert card didn't work, but Google found what I needed
https://www.arctic.de/en/Freezer-34-CO/ACFRE00051A
https://support.arctic.ac/index.php?p=freezer34co

 

9 Cooler Paste https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-MX-4-2019-Performance-Durability/dp/B07L9BDY3T
Turns out I didn't need to buy this, past comes with the Arctic cooler in a
small packet that is "just" enough to cover the bottom of the cooler... but if
I had purchased the different brand that I planned, I would have needed this

 

20 DVD Writer https://www.amazon.com/Lite-Internal-Drive-Optical-IHAS124-14/dp/B00ERJXTE4/
http://www.liteonodd.com/en/dvd-internal/item/dvdinternal/ihas124.html
http://www.liteonodd.com/datasheet/iHAS124_spec_ENrevise20160726.pdf

 

113 Win10 Pro OEM https://www.amazon.com/Windows-10-Pro-OEM-Professional/dp/B08794SW8D/

 

520 Intel i9 https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i9-10900k-core-i9-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118122
Compare i9-10900k vs my previous i7-4930k at several benchmark sites
17325vs6569=2.64 2677vs1064=2.52 11344vs4953=2.29 Avg=2.48 times faster
10 Physical cores, 20 Virtual threads - with built-in UHD Graphics 630
To disable onboard video (if it does not auto-disable when use a card)
Go to your device manager (see above about making a 'God Mode' link)
Click the drop down menu next to “Display Adapters”
Right click on your Intel UHD graphics.
Click device properties.
And click “Disable Device”

 

120 850watt Power https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-mwe-gold-850-v2-mpe-8501-afaag-us-850w/p/N82E16817171180
https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/power-supplies/mwe-series/mwe-gold-850-v2-full-modular/
Modular so I will only install the power cables I need to reduce clutter inside the case
https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator/ - not counting case fans 500 watt
A power supply should not be run at capacity, so I decided on 850 watt 'Gold"

 

59 Keyboard+Mouse https://www.newegg.com/microsoft-comfort-desktop-5050-pp4-00001-usb-rf-wireless/p/N82E16823109382
1889

 

To get the ASUS motherboard to boot from the M.2 drive I had to go into BIOS and change...
Change CSM from disabled to enabled
Change Boot from Storage from Legacy to UEFI
Change Boot from PCI-E from Legacy to UEFI

Votes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Guide ,
Jan 31, 2021 Jan 31, 2021

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

A PC can be configured so many ways depending on your needs. Are you editing BRAW or Pro Res? Those codecs create large files. Mechanical hard drives in a RAID away would be your best bet for storage. I am not sure how big your animation files will be. Are you editing H.264/265? If so the new Intel CPUs with Quick Sync would be your best bet for encoding and decoding the odd variations of H.264/265. Below is a video that might be worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df-RTSReQEI&feature=emb_imp_woyt

Votes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Beginner ,
Jan 30, 2021 Jan 30, 2021

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

Hey guys! I have a 2013 Macbook pro that I am using for premiere and animate. My computer is quite dated so whenever I edit 4k footage or try to animate in 4k I experience major lag or crashing. That being said, I'm looking for a new computer. I've been with Mac for some time now but I'm not sure if I should switch to building my own PC or get the latest IMac. I'm also unsure of what computer specs are needed to seamlessly work with 4k footage and animation files that wouldn't be an overkill. Please give me some opinions, spec recommendations! I'm a newb and need your brain juices.

 

[Do not double post... merged with other message... Moderator]

Votes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Jan 31, 2021 Jan 31, 2021

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

generally, premiere requires more computer resources than animate so i'm going to move your message.

Votes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Jan 31, 2021 Jan 31, 2021

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

LATEST

When I was buying components I wanted an RTX2060 with 6Gig to be sure of smooth timeline playback
I had to buy a GTX1650 with 4Gig because nobody had the 2060 in stock at that time
My 4k test did not have any timeline 'glitches' so I didn't need the 2060

 

I will not buy a 4k camera, but I did want to test my new computer with some 4k video

I downloaded some sample files from https://4ksamples.tumblr.com/

I have the HEIF and HEVC codecs... I didn't install them, so I presume they came with Win10

H.264 and HEVC inside an MP4 wrapper work... HEVC inside an ENCM wrapper won't play or load

Anyway, the MP4 files work just fine on the timeline, I don't notice any playback delays
or artifacts... so my computer with GTX1650 with 4Gig works just fine with 4k video

Votes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines