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New Workstation for blazing fast performance

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December 14, 2017
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Which one is best for

4K Music video editing in premiere pro

rotoscoping and composting in after effects

motion graphic design in cinema 4d

1. Hp's Z6

Processor :-

Intel® Xeon® Gold 6136 Processor (3 GHz, up to 3.7 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 24.75 MB cache, 2666MHz, 12 core)

Or

Intel® Xeon® Gold 6140 Processor (2.3 GHz, up to 3.7 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 24.75 MB cache, 2666 MHz, 18 core)

Operating System :-

Windows® 10 Pro for Workstation (4 Cores Plus) Multi - English, French, Spanish

Chasis

Z6 G4 90 1000 W Chassis

Graphics Card :-

NVIDIA Quadro P5000, 16B (5820T)

Memory :-

64GB (2x32GB) or (4x16GB) DDR4-2666 ECC Registered Memory (1 Processor)

Internal OS load storage options :-

Operating System Load to M.2

512 GB HP Z Turbo Drive Self-Encrypted (SED) M.2 SSD

Hard Drive Controllers :-

MegaRAID SAS 9460-8i 12Gb/s PCIe SATA/SAS HW RAID controller

Hard Drive :-

4 TB 7200 RPM SATA Enterprise 3.5" HDD x 4 = 16 TB

RAID Configurations for SATA/SAS Hard Drives/Solid :-

RAID 5

Additional networking options :-

Intel® X550-T2 10GbE Dual Port NIC

Front I/O ports :-

Premium - 2x USB 3.1 Type-C; 2x USB 3.0 Type-A

Accessories :-

HP Z6 G4 Memory Cooling Solution

Z4/Z6 G4 Side Panel Barrel Keylock

Thunderboalt 3 :-

Thunderboalt 3 Pcie card

Cost Arround $8000 USD

2. Dell's 7820 Precision Tower

Processor :-

Intel Xeon Gold 6140 2.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo 18C, 10.4GT/s 3UPI, 25M Cache, HT (140W) DDR4-2666

Or

Intel Xeon Gold 6136 3.0GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo, 12C, 10.4GT/s 3UPI,24.75M Cache, HT (150W) DDR4-2666

Operating System :-

Windows® 10 Pro for Workstation (4 Cores Plus) Multi - English, French, Spanish

Chassis :-

Precision 7820 Tower 950W Chassis

Graphics Card :-

NVIDIA Quadro P5000, 16B (5820T)

Memory :-

64GB (4x16GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RDIMM ECC

Boot Drive Option

Internal NVMe PCIe SSD (Dell Ultra-Speed Drive)

Dell Ultra-Speed Drive Quad PCIe SSD x16 card, 1 M.2 512GB PCIe NVMe Class 50 Solid State Drive

Hard Drive Controllers :-

MegaRAID SAS 9460-8i 12Gb/s PCIe SATA/SAS HW RAID controller (4GB cache)

Hard Drive :-

3.5" 4TB 7200rpm Nearline SAS Hard Drive x 2 = 8 TB

RAID Configurations for SATA/SAS Hard Drives/Solid :-

RAID 5

PCIe I/O Cards (ThunderBoalt 3)

USB 3.1 G2 PCIe Card - 2 Type C Ports. 1DP in

Network Cards

Intel® X550-T2 10GbE NIC, Dual Port, Copper

Cost Arround $8500 USD

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manish choudharyAuthor

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how as the processor and graphic card work and are you using pr pro also?

Averdahl

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I am satisfied with the processor though i know that the newer ones in the Z4/Z6/Z8 are faster. I am primarily using Premiere Pro and when i bought the Titan Xp i was happy to see that the export times of 4K material were cut in half compared to the GTX 980 card.

Averdahl

Community Expert

I don´t know why so many in this forum year in and year out so deeply hate workstations from either HP or DELL stating that "Xeon's are a architecture of the past" and "...completely chokes on even 720p video content." when both statements are utterly wrong. And yes, it is possible to buy any of those workstations with no graphics card installed and buy any GTX card and install it to completely avoid Quadro cards. It seems that none of you have actually used them workstations and all opinions seems to be based on a general hate towards workstations just for the sake of it.

I buy and use HP workstations and do always buy them without graphics card to having the ability to install a top end GTX card. Yes, it can be expensive but what i am buying is reliability of a certified workstation and the 3-year standard or 5-year (optional) on-site-warranty that is great to have if the computer for some reason dies. I prefer the 5-year on-site-warrany. I had a motherboard that died in my old Z800 and they came to me and replaced it the day after and i was up and running again. That´s totally worth it if you have a deadline coming up and that´s what i get for my money and that´s what i am willing to pay.

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RjL190365

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Well, I changed my mind about this discussion. What I meant there is that I will not be responding directly to the discussion creator about this subject matter, seeing as he's dead set on such an expensive and somewhat underperforming configuration for such an astronomical price tag. The problem is that he simply chose the wrong models from those two companies because they offer only single-Xeon-CPU configurations. And no single Xeon CPU is as powerful as even the least powerful of the HEDT i7 and i9 counterparts with otherwise identical core counts, due to their sometimes substantially slower base and Turbo clock speeds.

manish choudharyAuthor

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Intel's new W series is made to be use only single and powerfully

Intel Xeon W-2155

10 Core 20 Thread

3.3Ghz 4.5 Ghz Turbo

Or

Intel Xeon W-2175

14 Core 28 Thread

2.5 Ghz 4.3 Ghz Turbo

Or

Intel Xeon W2195

18 Core 36 Thread

2.6 Ghz 4.4 Ghz Turbo

And also Core i9

Intel Core i9-7900X

10 Core 20 Thread

3.3Ghz 4.5 Ghz Turbo

Or

Intel Core i9-7940x

14 Core 28 thread

3.1 Ghz 4.3 Ghz Turbo

Or

Intel Core i9-7980XE

18 Core 36 Thread

2.6Ghz 4.2Ghz Turbo

Than where is the differ come in point?

Xeon support ECC Memory Core i9 dosenot

Xeon's are bit higher in price but they are more reliable than i9 and i7

and big companies like Dell HP give 3 years on site warranty thats the main point.

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RjL190365

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I second the other responses. Xeons have practially no advantage whatsoever in single-CPU configurations over their "consumer" i7 or i9 counterparts. In fact, most single-Xeon configurations actually perform slower than their consumer counterparts in current Adobe CC programs, mainly due to their significantly lower base and all-core Turbo clock speeds. Plus, Xeons' requirement of ECC RAM slows down their performance even more due to ECC's greater latency.

And did I mention that the Xeon Golds use the exact same CPU architecture and technology as their Skylake-X i7 and i9 counterparts?

Ann Bens

Community Expert

Moved to Hardware Forum.

Bill Gehrke

Inspiring

Do not go with off the shelf big name configurations, go to custom video editing builders like Puget. Safe Harbor or ADK they will ask you many questions about your media and workflow and deliver a real optimized video editing system that will do much better than any off the shelf.

Xeon's are a architecture of the past.
Unless you have a very expensive 10-bit monitor a Quadro card is overkill.
Do not waste a super speed M.2 PCIe x4 SSD on the boot drive. Use only for Projects and Media. Use a standard SATA III SSD for the OS/Applications.
Never use RAID 5 if you are dealing with high sequential rates like video streams
RAID is a thing of the past for performance, it is good for high reliability back up and archiving.
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