SD Driver for Nvidia Geforce MX200 series - unsupported video driver for Premiere Pro

[wag_9]

Lenovo, running Windows 10 Home, using a Geforce MX230 graphics card on driver version 430.81.  Premiere Pro is saying this is incompatible, but Nvidia has no SD drivers to update to.

Has anyone solved this problem?  Please advise.  Thank you!

[Peru Bob]

I've moved this to the Video Hardware forum.

[RjL190365]

There is absolutely no Studio Driver at all whatsoever for any of the low-end Nvidia GPUs. That GPU is based on a GP108 GPU that is not supported at all in any of the Studio Drivers. For Pascal a 128-bit memory bus or better is required in order to use the Studio Drivers. But the GP108 is limited in hardware to only a 64-bit memory bus.

You will have to use the Game Ready driver for that MX230. However, do not use any driver version above 442.xx as there is absolutely no Quadro driver whatsoever in the 445-series branch, and that the Studio Driver is the GeForce-compatible equivalent to the Quadro drivers. And the 445.xx series drivers have known issues with content-greation apps. Right now the driver version must be between 430.86 and 442.92, inclusively, in order to be compatible with Premiere Pro. Your currently installed driver version is too old for Premiere Pro.

[Guest]

Hello, I bought a Dell with an MX230 and was hoping to run Premiere Pro. I have looked up the drivers you mention above at Nvidia and there is nothing between 442.74 and 445.87 in game ready drivers. The 442.92 is only available as a a studio driver. I am a little confused as to what to use since you said to use only a game ready driver. I haven't received the computer yet and am thinking about returning it. Do you have any advice about this machine being capable of running  PPro 2020? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-inspiron-15-6-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-512gb-...  

[Peru Bob]

Do you have any advice about this machine...

Too slow a processor.

[RjL190365]

Simple. There are no Studio drivers at all whatsoever for any of the lower-end GeForce GPUs.

And your information about the available driver versions is a bit outdated. The MX230 will not work properly in either of the two newest versions of Premiere Pro. If you use the newest versions of Premiere Pro, Premiere's renderer will be effectively locked to the software-only mode as these newest versions of Premiere Pro now require 10-bit support via the OpenGL API just to be supported. That means the MX series GPUs and the GT series GPUs will no longer work at all with GPU acceleration. And this support is now hard-coded into the program executable (and thus cannot be hacked to enable at all).

And as Peru Bob stated, the 10nm Ice Lake CPUs are currently artificially restricted in performance by Intel itself as to not cannibalize the performance of 14nm (and more power-hungry) parts. And the Ice Lake CPUs such as the one in that Inspiron is only a 4-core/8-thread CPU. While I would have made a case of its continued use back in the Skylake era of 2016, the Ice Lake CPUs are now overpriced for their performance, considering that there are more powerful CPUs (both mobile and desktop) with more cores and threads, even from Intel, for the same price.

[Guest]

Thank you for your timely responses and saving me from a costly mistake. I will return it without opening it when it comes in. It seems to be a little tricky buying a laptop under $1500 that actually has all the specs to run PPro. If you have any advice on that, it would be appreciated. 

[josefina0101]

I bought a laptop dell with a gpu nvidia mx 230 and I have a lot of problems, what can I do? what version of premiere can I put to use it?

[RjL190365]

You might want to switch to the more consumer-oriented Premiere Elements for that laptop. Newer versions of Premiere Pro demand higher-end hardware in order to run properly. And once version 15.0 becomes available via the normal (not beta) section, the current version 14.9 will become the only other version that's officially available via the Creative Cloud app. Nothing older than 14.9 will officially be available any more.

If you absolutely must run Premiere Pro on that laptop, please disable all hardware acceleration from that Nvidia GPU in both the program and the project settings. And if your laptop is based on a recent Intel CPU, disable all hardware acceleration except for the Intel QuickSync hardware decoding. Nvidia's MX-series GPUs have no hardware decoding or encoding capability whatsoever as such features (NVDEC and NVENC) are absent or disabled during manufacture.

[josefina0101]

Thaks for your answer! I have doubts about "please disable all hardware acceleration from that Nvidia GPU in both the program and the project settings. And if your laptop is based on a recent Intel CPU, disable all hardware acceleration except for the Intel QuickSync hardware decoding", I don't know what this implies?, sorry but I don´t understand, could you tell how can I do it please? I have INTEL CORE 7

[RjL190365]

The reason for this is troubleshooting. Newer Game Ready Drivers (the only ones that are compatible with the MX series GPUs at the moment) have major issues in content creation programs, especially those that use hardware acceleration. Disabling hardware acceleration will send everything to the CPU.

[josefina0101]

what consequences would it bring if I disable all hardware acceleration from that Nvidia GPU? not being able to use some effects? Sorry for my english, I'm from Argentina

[Peru Bob]

 not being able to use some effects?

By @josefina0101

Yes, and possibly slower performance.

[josefina0101]

I tried this and it didn't work, I can't edit properly. I tried to download the older version that Adobe Creative Cloud allowed me but the problem continues, I don't know what to do, I can't change my notebook because it's new. Does the 2017 version have the same gpu requirements?

[RjL190365]

Here's the problem:

You cannot legitimately obtain the 2017 version any more. The 2019 13.1.5 is officiallyy the oldest version of Premiere Pro that's still available - but not for much longer. When version 15 gets released very shortly, the current 14.9 version will be the only other version of Premiere Pro that will remain available besides the new 15.0 version.

You see, due to the Adobe version availability policy that went into effect on May 8, 2019, version availability is now limited to the newest major version plus only the last point release of the immediately preceding version.

In other words, your new laptop now no longer meets the minimum hardware performance requirements of any newer versions of Premiere Pro. Adobe has become an increasingly elitist company when it comes to computer hardware requirements.

As a result of all that, Premiere Elements (a cheapened version of Premiere that has much fewer features and far fewer performance enhancements) may very well become the only version of Premiere that's suitable for your new laptop.

[Guest]

https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GF65-Thin-10SX/Specification

Will this run Premiere Pro 2020?

[Guest]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Z5NB3CN/?coliid=I3I3XE9JMHTPE4&colid=3UY5EVS562H0B&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig...

Actually, this is the one I meant to link to, but it would be good to know if either will work. Also, is there an issue with P Pro and all nVidia dedicated graphics. Is it better to just go with integrated?

[Peru Bob]

What type of video (codec and file type) will you be editing?

[Guest]

MPEG-4 codec for mp4 files. 

[Peru Bob]

It would probably be OK, but you might need to use proxies.

My concern is the size of the hard drive.

[Guest]

OK Thanks