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Video Editing PC for 4K - Hardware and Performance

New Here ,
Dec 16, 2020 Dec 16, 2020

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Hi,

Please can anyone suggest PC configuration to handle 4K (minimum 2 tracks on Screen) Video Editing?

I can see following available for sale, is this good enough?

 

  • 2x 6-Core Intel Xeon E5-2667 2.90 GHz Processors
  • 32 GB DDR3 1600 MHz RAM
  • 1x 500GB SSD 
  • 2x 1TB HDD (RAID Configuration) 
  • XFX R7-260X AMD Graphics Card 2GB GDDR5 

 

CPU 12 Cores. is this enough?

How much RAM / Type and Speed is required?

What should be the HDD / SSD Read & Write Speed for 4K?

GPU Suggestion?

 

I'm using Premiere Pro CS6, should I upgrade to CC?

 

I'm looking for a minimum / budget configuration. Will appreciate any suggestions / advice.

Thanks in advance.

 

 

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Dec 16, 2020 Dec 16, 2020

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I'm using DJI OSMO - 4k 30 FPS - 60 FPS

File Type : .mp4 / ,mov / H.264, Data Rate: 60kbps - 100kbps

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Community Expert ,
Dec 16, 2020 Dec 16, 2020

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Moved to hardware forum.

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Community Expert ,
Dec 16, 2020 Dec 16, 2020

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HDDs are never a good idea to edit 4K. You need SSD.

Dont think CS6 will handle the drone footage very well.

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LEGEND ,
Dec 16, 2020 Dec 16, 2020

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Not good enough, I'm afraid. CS6 does not support OpenCL at all in Windows. Only CUDA, which no non-Nvidia GPU supports at all. This will permanently lock CS6 to the software-only rendering mode, which is what you don't want.

 

Second, if you're going to get a newer version of Premiere Pro (Creative Cloud version, of which the 2019/13.1.5 version is now the oldest that remains officially available to Creative Cloud subscribers, which is now the only official means of getting any of Adobe's professional content creation programs), that hardware is now officially too old to be supported. The Sandy Lake-E/EP CPUs are now more than seven years old at this point, while the Rx 200 series GPUs are now almost as old as the CPUs themselves. Worse, those dual 6-core Xeons put together are still weaker than a current-gen mainstream-desktop-platform 8-core CPU-powered PC. Plus, two 6-core CPUs do not perform as well as a single 12-core CPU of even the same vintage because of the latencies in communication between the two physical CPU sockets.

 

In other words, that PC is largely a waste of money regardless of the version of Premiere Pro that you currently have access to.

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New Here ,
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Hi RjL190365,

Your reply makes total sense to me.

I thought these 2x 6-cores will be good enough.

Can you recommend a workstation (not very expensive) to serve the purpose?

What GPU (Cuda) should I buy, I'm on a budget but I'm willing to spend on a GPU which can help CPUs handling 4K editing.

What should be the Read / Write speed of HDDs / SSDs

Thanks for your help and rpely.

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LEGEND ,
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We cannot recommend a combination of parts for your planned workstation without you specifying a particular total budget (in your country's currency).

 

What the above sentence means is that if your budget is low, you will likely end up with either too weak of an overall package or a package with a severely lopsided component balance (a decently powerful CPU but a woefully weak GPU). In the worst case, the only machine that has new-enough components to be technically supported in newer versions of Premiere Pro might very well have components that are much too weak all around.

 

As for the read/write speed of an internal drive, HDDs cannot sustain more than about 200 MB/s on the outer tracks in either reads or writes - and when asked to perform both operations at the same time, they cannot (they can only read or write, but not both simultaneously). As a result, the maximum practical disk I/O throughput of a typical HDD is no better than about 100 MB/s - and this rate falls off significantly when the disk becomes over half full, all the way down to less than 40 MB/s!

 

SATA SSDs are better, but they can still only reach about 250-ish MB/s in simultaneous I/O throughput (or 500+ MB/s when transferring in one direction at a time). This is all due to the limitations of the SATA interface itself.

 

PCI-e (or NVMe) SSDs, on the other hand, can perform both reads and writes simultaneously.

 

With all that said, you will want a newer system that has one or two PCI-e capable m.2 sockets for m.2 SSDs, and I would also recommend that you get two m.2 NVMe SSDs of two different capacities - one 250 or 500 GB SSD for the OS and programs, one 1 TB or larger for your working media and projects. A third SATA SSD of a smallish-capacity is also nice to have for cache/scratch files. And depending on the CPU, for your GPU a GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER is a good starting point; however, aim for an RTX if you can afford one. Avoid older GPUs that are either outdated or obsolete (and yes, this also applies to budget low-end GPUs that are still available new) since they will not have much usable life left in them.

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New Here ,
Dec 18, 2020 Dec 18, 2020

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Spot on, this is agreat insight into this, I will definitly read more about above and plan the hardware. thanks a lot for your time, take care

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Community Expert ,
Dec 25, 2020 Dec 25, 2020

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I have been talking to someone in another forum about his planned 2021 build... this total before any shipping/taxes is just under $2,000 US

 

530 10 Core 3.7GHz https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i9-10900k-core-i9-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118122
    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/core/i9-processors/i9-10900k.html
    Integrated Intel UHD Graphics 630 use shared memory up to 64Gig - limited to half installed ram
170 64 Gig Ram See further on for non-ECC ram
    If not buy RTX2060 and turn UHD Graphics 630 off buy twice for 128 Gig Ram
120 FCLGA1200 Motherboard https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119303?Item=N82E16813119303
100 500Gig boot M.2 https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-FireCuda-Performance-Internal-ZP1000GM30001/dp/B07ZPRRSPX
55 500Gig temp/output SSD https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-500gb/p/N82E16820250087
    Temporary cache files and all output video files and ISO to burn a disc
90 1T Input/backup SSD https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-1tb/p/N82E16820250088
    Input video & sound & picture files, and backup MS Office document folder
103 Full Tower Case https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147053?Item=N82E16811147053
    Comes with 4 fans to keep the inside cool
120 Power 850watt https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-mwe-gold-850-v2-mpe-8501-afaag-us-850w/p/N82E16817171180
    https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator/ - not counting case fans 500 watt
    A power supply should not be run at capacity, so I decided on 850 watt 'Gold"
35 CPU cooler https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-hyper-212-black-edition-rr-212s-20pk-r1/p/N82E16835103278
5 Thermal Paste https://www.newegg.com/arctic-silver-as5-3-5g/p/N82E16835100007
23 DVD Writer https://www.newegg.com/asus-model-drw-24f1st-d-blk-b-as-dvd-burner/p/N82E16827135305
56 Keyboard + Mouse https://www.newegg.com/microsoft-comfort-desktop-5050-pp4-00001-usb-rf-wireless/p/N82E16823109382
145 Win10 Pro OEM https://www.newegg.com/microsoft-windows-10-pro-64-bit/p/N82E16832588491
360 nVidia  RTX2060 https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-2060-zt-t20600k-10m/p/N82E16814500495
1912   Use an HDMI connection to monitor

 

 

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LEGEND ,
Dec 25, 2020 Dec 25, 2020

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The problem with that build is this:

 

The mainstream Intel CPUs' memory controller does not support ECC or registered RAM. Therefore, there is a compatibility issue between the RAM and the motherboard. RDIMMs are keyed differently from UDIMMs. The 400-series motherboards only support UDIMMs.

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Community Expert ,
Dec 25, 2020 Dec 25, 2020

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Hmm... this may be a problem... I went to ASUS and they do not list ANY ram for this motherboard

 

I'm going to have to do some searching to find out who else has a list

 

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non-ECC ram is more $$ but I found this that is compatible

213 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232939

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It's the same QVL list for the non-CSM and the CSM versions. Look at the list for the Prime H470 PLUS (non-CSM) for the DIMMs that Asus tested.

 

And when I stated that the RDIMMs are keyed differently from the UDIMMs, the keying notch in the middle of the contacts is in a slightly different location than that in the UDIMMs. Therefore, RDIMMs will not seat fully at all in the DIMM slots of any 400-chipset motherboard.

 

Scratch the above paragraph. DDR4 RDIMMS will physically fit, but the system will not even POST at all when RDIMMs are used in that H470 motherboard.

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