Windows 11 and your hardware

Report · Oct 18, 2021

This describes a one line registry change to allow Windows 11 without TPM 2.0

https://www.askwoody.com/newsletter/free-edition-a-single-registry-line-enables-windows-11-without-t...

Report · Oct 25, 2021

Hmm... after building several computers over the years, I had a bunch of extra parts that I used, with a new motherboard, to build a spare computer

It has an ASUS Z490-P motherboard https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Prime-Z490-P/dp/B07ZT3F95V/ which is the same as in my computer

I may just do what it says in https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1012152/ to update the BIOS to be Win11 compatible as a test

Before updating to Win11 I will, of course, use my backup program to do a full boot drive backup

The product I bought and use is at http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-linux.htm
Note that I get NO benefit if you buy the program, I only use it and like what it does

Report · Oct 27, 2021

Well, half success and half failure

I updated the bios from 1602 to 1620 and tpm is active

Then the Win11 checkup said I must have secure boot enabled

I spent 2+ hours reading and checking/changing every bios setting I could find... secure boot REQUIRES uefi 'only'

For my motherboard to boot from the M.2 'ssd stick' on the motherboard I must have uefi + legacy enabled... uefi only won't boot

So... I stay with Win10 until such time as Microsft FORCES me to upgrade... and that will require a new motherboard... RATS!!!

Report · Oct 28, 2021

I have NOT done this (yet... I have to get my extra PC back out of storage, and turn of my main PC to connect the extra to my monitor) but I found a site with a Registry change that says it will allow installing Win11 without secure boot... and this same information is on 2 other sites, so I think it is valid

Bypass secure boot requirement with a Registry change
https://www.wintips.org/how-to-install-windows-11-without-tpm-and-secure-boot/
1. Press Windows image + R keys to open the run command box.
2. Type regedit and press Enter.
3. In Registry Editor navigate to the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup
4a. Right-click on the Setup key and choose New Key.
4b. Name the new key LabConfig and press Enter.
5a. Right-click at an empty space on the right pane and select New > DWORD (32-bit) Value.
5b. Name the new value BypassTPMCheck and press Enter.
6. Repeat steps 5a & 5b and create two more values with names:
BypassRAMCheck

NOTE - one other site does not mention BypassRAMCheck

-- since I have 32Gig I may or may not add this value
BypassSecureBootCheck
7. Open one by one the three newly created values and type 1 at the value data box.
8. After all modifications, you should have the image below: (image on web page)
9. Close the Registry Editor and reboot your PC.
10. Install Windows 11.

OR

Download the Registry changes to run and install for you https://m.majorgeeks.com/content/page/bypass_tpm.html
Download Bypass Secure Boot and Trusted Platform Module and extract the two files.
Double-click on Windows 11 - Bypass TPM And Secure Boot.reg or Windows 11 - Bypass TPM And Secure Boot DEFAULT.reg (Default).

NOTE - clicking the DEFAULT from the zip removes the new keys and puts the Registry back to the default
Click Yes when prompted by User Account Control.
Click Yes when prompted by Registry Editor.
Click OK when prompted by the Registry Editor. Reboot.

Report · Oct 28, 2021

Registry change FAILED !!!

Win11 still refuses to install, even with the 3 new Registry entries

I will conclude that my M.2 drive requiring UEFI+Legacy, not UEFI only, is causing the problem

So, I am back to thinking I will need a new computer, or at least a new motherboard, when Microsoft stops supporting Win10

Report · Oct 29, 2021

Win11 still refuses to install, even with the 3 new Registry entries

By @John T Smith

There are many tutorials out ther on how-to bypass all that. I found one that i cannot find now but basically it was:

Download the Media Creation Tool for Windows 10 and let it create a bootable USB stick.
Download the Media Creation Tool for Windows 11 but this time, let it create an ISO file.
Plug in the USB stick and go to the folder sources and rename install.esd to install.old
Mount the ISO that Media Creation Tool for Windows 11 in Explorer, open the folder sources and copy the file install.esd over to the sources folder on the USB stick.
Boot the computer you want to install Windows 11 on from the USB stick.

This will work and the first phase of the installation will look like the install in Windows 10 but will soon look like the installer for Windows 11.

I used this method to install Windows 11 on an old laptop that dont meet any of the requirements from Windows 11, iow processor and TPM 2.0. So i know that it works. 🙂

Download Windows 10 (microsoft.com)

Download Windows 11 (microsoft.com)

Report · Oct 29, 2021

I may try this the next time I have time to shut my main computer down so I may connect my extra computer to my monitor

I have a new cpu and 32gig ram and tpm 2 is enabled in that computer after a bios update

But... the z490-p motherboard will not boot at all if I have uefi only enabled (which a microsoft page I found said is required for Win11) so I must have uefi + legacy enabled in the bios... and I suspect that Win11 is not installing, even with the 3 registry additions, due to how the bios must be configured to be able to 'see' the M.2 on the motherboard

Report · Oct 29, 2021

I went to the download link you posted and downloaded the ISO... which has an install.wim file that is about the same size, but no install.esd file

I will go back and try the other option to see if it will create an ISO with the correct file

Report · Oct 29, 2021

Creating an ISO instead of downloaded the ready made one contains the esd file

Now all I need to do is find the time to bring the extra out of storage and see if the install from the usb drive will allow an upgrade, not just a fresh install, so I can keep all of my existing programs

Or, I may write that ISO to a DVD and boot from there... since I've never booted from a usb and I'm thinking that I may/will have to go into the bios again and change the boot options

Report · Oct 29, 2021

Or, I may write that ISO to a DVD and boot from there... since I've never booted from a usb and I'm thinking that I may/will have to go into the bios again and change the boot options

By @John T Smith

If you write that ISO file it won´t work since it´s a Windows 11 ISO. The point with the USB method is to trick the installer to install since it is a Windows 10 installer that will install Windows 11 using the .esd file. Since it´s the Windows 10 installer, it won´t check any Win 11 requirements.

It is possible to use that USB when Windows 10 is running to upgrade to Windows 11 by clicking on setup.exe in Explorer.

Report · Oct 29, 2021

When I tried with the original esd it was by running setup on the usb drive... and it told me the computer did not qualify due to not having secure boot

I will try again with the new-copied esd and see if that works on my computer to bypass the secure boot requirement

If not, I will conclude that my idea about having to use uefi + legacy instead of 'pure' uefi in bios to be able to use the M.2 on the motherboard is the problem... and I will give up trying to install Win11 on my extra computer and just wait until 2025 to buy new motherboard(s) for the 3 computers I have... starting, of course, with my extra... and doing the testing a few months before Microsoft completely stops supporting Win10 so I will have time to do all of my testing

Report · Oct 29, 2021

I will try again with the new-copied esd and see if that works on my computer to bypass the secure boot requirement

By @John T Smith

The trick to make it work is to use the USB created for Win 10 with an install.esd from the Win 11 ISO created by the Media Creation Tool for Win 11. That will bypass all checks that the native Win 11 installer does.

I think this is the tutorial i watched: How to clean install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware (official release, working October 5th 2021)...

Report · Oct 29, 2021

>That will bypass all checks

Nope... didn't work

I 1st booted from the usb drive... installer said doesn't meet the minimum system requirements

Restarted into Win10 and manually ran the setup.exe... this time it said WHY it wouldn't install, which is no secure boot

I am now 100% sure that the bios setting I have to use for the M.2 to be recognized is the problem

I may, someday, buy a regular SSD and clone the M.2 to that and find out if booting from the SSD in 'uefi only' mode works so secure boot will activate... but not right now