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if you want to take time to do stuff its okay with me. why not ? let me know when you can talk about defining the rest of the story board...I will be ready to talk about the rest of the story board yesterday...
ps.. well, music and sound I was thinking we could use SFX and 'music' from those collections of stuff for sale. I like the idea of using our own music but I left my guitar in NYC when I moved here to MN. Do you have any instruments ??
if you want to take time to do stuff its okay with me. why not ? let me know when you can talk about defining the rest of the story board...I will be ready to talk about the rest of the story board yesterday...
I want you to realise we have to set deadlines for every task so as to be in time? And so as to set them realistically, we need to look at a broader picture, i.e. all tasks required to finish the project in time. Without that it is not clear if it's OK to finish the story board on 8 November or on 25 October, we simply don't know why. That's why I suggested you to think if 8 of November was OK, not because I wanted to take time.
ps.. well, music and sound I was thinking we could use SFX and 'music' from those collections of stuff for sale. I like the idea of using our own music but I left my guitar in NYC when I moved here to MN. Do you have any instruments ??
Yes, I have an acoustic guitar and I have a Sound Blaster card on my other PC. That doesn't mean I'm a good guitar player or a DJ. Rather the opposite. But once again, that's not the point, the point is we MUST CLEARLY DEFINE the project constraints & quality criteria. Otherwise we'll permanently stay on different wavelengths...
If you're like me ( accoustic guitar ) the pleasure is playing for the enjoyment of the sound etc and not so much to entertain others. I suck at playing 'for people' due to being kinda shy in public.
Anyway, I apologize Fuzzy, because I am so not understanding your approach to this right now. We are as you say, on different wavelengths and I don't know how to fix that.
In my mind I need to define a product first.. and then I will know what else spins off from that product in terms of supporting it, advertising it, etc.
Once I know the elements of support and promotion I can then look at all those things and see what can or cannot be done ...either cause of skill , money limitation, etc.
In other words, without me visually a product I can't schedule and plan the rest of the things. IN fact I can't even plan the basic product cause I dont know what it is yet.
So I have to apologize and agree I am having a major problem with it right now.
So I have to apologize and agree I am having a major problem with it right now.
Stand up and fight you warthog! 
I guess what I'm saying is that without me being able to visualize in my head ..the product... I cannot assign tasks, schedules and so on...
OK, let's set the deadline for developing our story on tomorrow, 25 October. Since it is getting late here now, I'll be back tomorrow as well. Hopefully we have some time difference, and I can start thinking a bit earlier than you wake up.
While I'm sleeping, please, revise how our final product is defined in the appendix to the original post and what constitutes our project constraints & quality criteria. Product there is not a single item, it is a set of items. And our project comprises all tasks required to deliver the Product from defining the Product itself to producing and delivering its components.
And do not hesitate to ask questions: we have to start understanding each other so as to succeed!
I guess the bottom line is that this would be called a brain storming session.. between the two of us , Fuzzy, at this point. Which I think is a good thing because with more people it would get even more whacky.
And so far my feeling is that brain storming is not working very well so far. It probably would work better if we had worked on projects before , on the same jobs in real life at the same locations etc.. like we know each other ? If you and I had worked on movies and tv shows and commercials together in the past we would probably be able to brain storm pretty easily.
So my impresson now, due to my own lack of experience with collaborating in the cloud so to speak, without a firm head ( monetized product with the brain storming already DONE and montetized ).. I'm thinking it isn't going to result in a satisfactory project. Well, maybe the word " successful " is more good than " satisfactory " . I have aleady learned a lot about collaborating from what you've done with outlines and tasks and zoho and dropbox etc.. So this has already helped me a lot. Not to mention getting the mouse up to speed for internet based interaction. So good things have already been achieved by me due to this .. thanks !
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Product there is not a single item, it is a set of items. And our project comprises all tasks required to deliver the Product from defining the Product itself to producing and delivering its components.
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Okay, I have to keep that in mind...
Let's call the 60 sec commercial our PRIMARY Product from now on...that will make it easier to differentiate it from out fictional THE EGG thing we are selling with the primary product.
Sooo, the product in general is what you said...but the PRIMARY product is the commercial.
That makes it easier for me and you to pin point ( focus) on elements , which in turn will become all the components. okay ?
Now I have to think some more and start on the last 26 secs of the Primary product.... making assumptions about the fictional THE EGG... so that may take the rest of the day for me...
I also have to order that stupid green screen, cause there's no way in Hell I will be able to advertise for free actors to join me to shoot in front of theatres around here in MN. ( I haven't see a single theatre since I got here a year ago cause I stay home near the lake ).
I can use the old people here as actors with any luck and a box full of donuts ....
More brainstorming....
My basic reasoning....is....
Our primary product is selling THE EGG docu drama...
So this brainstorming is now focused on the content of THE EGG ( which we won't make but which we need to know about in order to sell it ).
Here is the silly fiction behind THE EGG so far....
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A space ship shaped like an EGG came to earth Billions of years ago, It orbited the earth. It divided into " slices " , each one looking like a typical flying saucer ( of slightly different sizes due to egg shape ). Those flying saucers landed on earth Billions of years ago.
The purpose of the visit is unknown. But one major factor in the result of the visit is that EGG BASED LIFE on earth was introduced...
Apparently through chemical and biological influences from the flying saucers the single cell organisms present on earth Billions of years ago now began to evolve into multi cell organisms and eventually egg based reproduction of animals etc... all of this took Billions of years from the time of the flying saucer visits.
A major EARTH SHATTERING MAJOR GIANT BIGGEST EVER DISCOVERY in Western Australia , at a place called SHARK BAY, reveals a complete and preserved FLYING SAUCER. The surrounding geological materials date the flying saucer to Billions of years ago. Near the flying saucer is a mysterious pyramid shape, within which resides an equally mysterious EGG SHAPE.. of alien manufacture.
This earth shattering discovery has an enormous influence on the world population. Due to the way the discovery occurred there was intitially now way for any governments to keep the information secret. Many pictures, illustrations, videos and facts were made public. However, the big governments of the world soon closed the site to the public and surrounded the area with security and stopped public access of any kind... and the site TODAY is in control of those governments who refuse to release any further information about their investigations.
Meanwhile the world wonders and guesses and many previously held beliefs and science facts have been shaken by this discovery.
It is in this mood of wonder and amazement and questioning that THE EGG is released in the theatres....
THE EGG answers questions and provides theories , and supplies facts ...
The flying saucer is a sealed unit and nobody has been able to enter it or see inside it. The pyramid is entered and the EGG SHAPE is discovered, but it too is a sealed object of unknown material. There may or may not be some kind of emination from the EGG SHAPE in the pyramid.
Apparently the flying saucer was caught in a cataclysmic geological upheaval ( earthquake from fault movement etc ) which trapped and covered the saucer... Recent mining exploration in SHARK BAY is the reason the large CAVERN containing the flying saucer and pyramid was discovered.
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Stromatolites provide the most ancient records of life on Earth by fossil remains which date from more than 3.5 billion years ago. These can be Found at Shark Bay today.
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The discovery generated many front page headlines, UN emergency meetings, rioting in Los Angeles, interviews on TV with scientists, and so on...
The current state of things is that the area is under top secret control.
THE EGG docu drama uses many materials from the discovery that was released prior to the sight being closed off by governments. One of the things released from the site are detailed drawings ( like hyroglyphics ) which surround the edge of the flying saucer... etched into the flying saucer material.
pictures of the flying saucer, the detailed drawings, pictures of the pyramid and egg shape are all materials THE EGG uses to tell its story.
The story concludes that the flying saucer(s) which landed on earth from the main ship that originally orbited earth... brought to earth the ability for evolution to develop EGG BASED reproduction of animals on earth ! This is a new idea THE EGG proposes.
So the age old question ( which came first , the chicken or the egg , is anwered ! THE EGG )
Moving on...
If the above premise is accepted... ( the background story of THE EGG ).. I think we can move forward with the project as a whole.. figuring out what elements to include and schedules etc.
For example, As you've mentioned Fuzzy, we can figure out what the web site would address. If we want it to address THE EGG we need to make some portions of THE EGG docu drama maybe ? Or at least have some content from THE EGG on the site ? Like pictures, illustrations, maps, diagrams, the detailed hyroglyphics, etc.. ??
The primary product ( selling THE EGG ) storyboard can be finished knowing some of the details about THE EGG ( what we are selling in the primary product ).
But now we can move forward with the other items as well.
For example, do we want a talk show appearance of the director of THE EGG rather than focus on the primary product ? I would think the former is better...
Also, other promotional and informational links and resources on the web page might be better focusing on THE EGG..
Our primary product could be a streaming video on the home page maybe .. .to sell THE EGG.... ??
Steve, also just read through that stupid THE EGG premise and imagine what people would SAY coming out of seeing that story for the first time... Maybe print it and give to your talent so they can read it and get idea of the movie they just watched... and they can use imagination to say what influenced them the MOST...
know what I mean ? hehe.. could be fun...
For example, As you've mentioned Fuzzy, we can figure out what the web site would address...
As far as I remember, we already figured out what the website would address. Since I assumed the decision was taken consciously, I started working on it, spent some days learning JavaScript basics and tested some YouTube IFrame API niceties. Currently the test website can load external obfuscated JavaScript, which creates horizontaly and vertically aligned to the center of the html page <iframe> tag and loads YouTube player with some custom test buttons. And I don't feel very excited, if you want to throw it down the drain...
Maybe print it and give to your talent so they can read it and get idea of the movie they just watched... and they can use imagination to say what influenced them the MOST...
They definitely can use their imagination to improve their lines, but they shouldn't invent them from scratch. The storyboard has to be finished today, 25 October, as we agreed yesterday. So, we have around 3.5 hours to do the job.
So far I came up with a bit alternative intro (if it's a brainstorming sessions, we should generate different ideas first and assess them later, say after 19:00 GMT), but I stuck at how we could perform a transition from eggs and aliens to excited people storytelling-wise...
17:50 GMT UPD:
In between 11th and 12th frames:
- cockpit view (the same one will be used in the website) - 2 sec;
- console close-up, pilot's fingers select a couple of buttons - 1 sec;
- virtual control tab with rotating 3D sketch of Earth, some information and maybe controls appears above the windshield - 1 sec;
- an opposite view, pilot's fingers manipulate virtual control tab, half the pilot's face can be seen through the virtual control panel - 3 sec;
- frame #12;
- pilot curtails and removes virtual controls - 2 sec;
- frame #13, landing.
years ago ( about 10 years ? ) my brother programmed some thing for his company to keep track of films distributed to colleges around the nation ...mostly docs and edu films of course... and he asked me to make a splash screen for the program.. which I did.. I turned a film reel into a flying saucer .. sorta...
I just found this while trying to figure out how to make the new domain name work ....which was a real pain in the butt to be honest...as I dont do this stuff often..
used photoshop for that...
update...
The new domain name finally got active...and I put your index file into the root but not the xxx js file...and I guess this domain thing is working now...
http://loungeproductionpresents.com/
when you want I will email you the settings to make for FTP xfer .. so you have control of the thing...I use FTP LITE...and it works great...is very simple.. but works and is free.
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