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Deborah-BDG
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June 20, 2017
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CSS editing more difficult for me in CC2017 than CS6

  • June 20, 2017
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While there are many features about CC2017 vs CS6 that I appreciate, I miss the CS6 ability to see at-a-glance what is set for a selected element and being able to simply "right click > edit" a property within that interface.

The CS6 interface offered either a right-click ability to edit a property right there or a popup with all options for that property readily available for editing. The same edits in CC2017 take several clicks and much time on my part to figure out an element's relationship within the interface.

Best I have done is to install both CS6 and CC2017 and throughout the day open/close one or the other to accomplish tasks. Very tiresome. (Before you ask, yes, I can hand code CSS and HTML, but that's not the point.)

My specific questions to anyone reading this:

1) If you feel as I do that the general CS6 CSS interface was more user-friendly, how have you adapted your workflow when using CS2017?

2) Is there a version between CS6 and CC2017 that offers the same CSS editor as CS6, but has more advanced features?

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    Correct answer ALsp

    You'll get a lot of advice here :-) But you need to weight it carefully. Adobe's Dreamweaver CC UI could have been much better. They have removed many time-saving features and over-complicated the CSS editing process. The best advice I can give you, and please understand that I know CSS (I truly do ) is to Turn off Related Files and open your CSS directly to edit them. Code hinting is very good. The CSS panel is a waste. It really is, and Adobe will not change it because they think it's a magnificent bit of programming.

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    Deborah-BDGAuthor
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    June 21, 2017

    Wow! Look what I started here!

    So what worked best for me when in CC2017 is as Alsp suggested, disabling related files. I'll probably still continue swapping back/forth between the two versions, depending on the task at hand.

    Thanks everyone!

    pziecina
    pziecina
    Legend
    June 21, 2017

    Deborah-BDG  wrote

    Wow! Look what I started here!

    This is at least a bi-monthly topic, which should not be taken too seriously by anyone. Yes we will complain, and the complainants are noted for future reference, (maybe that should be complaints ) but no one expects anything to happen. If you drop by and see such a discussion feel free to join in, providing it does not get personal it help to clear the air, and light spirited discussions are more preferable to some that we see.

    pziecina
    pziecina
    Legend
    June 20, 2017

    I think, (and this is a personal opinion) that from cs6 onwards whom ever decides things at adobe, concerning Dw, decided to make it more friendly to users, but in the process forgot what the then user base of Dw wanted. Or to put it simply, 'they dummed it down' so that people who really did not want to code, or even learn the basics could use it.

    Through all it's versions since cs6, it has first ignored then and if it did ever realise the problem, never caught up with the requirements of the modern web, no one has even looked at the requirements of cs6 users who now use other programs, let alone anyone not working alone but as part of a team using modern workflows.

    CC 2017, in all its manifestations was for me the ultimate failure, as i cannot even use it for longer than 30 minutes, without wanting to throw my computer out of the window, (and i'm not talking about windows 10). I have my personal opinions about how this travesty has reached its final conclusion, but in the interest of keeping things civil i will not air my views.

      ALsp
      ALsp
      Legend
      June 20, 2017

      pziecina  wrote

      I have my personal opinions about how this travesty has reached its final conclusion, but in the interest of keeping things civil i will not air my views.

      I'd love to hear ;-)

      It could be that the programmers working on Dreamweaver have never designed or developed a web site. I mean, it could  really be that simple.

      pziecina
      pziecina
      Legend
      June 20, 2017

      ALsp  wrote

      I'd love to hear ;-)

      It could be that the programmers working on Dreamweaver have never designed or developed a web site. I mean, it could  really be that simple.

      No one set of people could be responsible for what finally culminated in cc 2017.

      Maybe it could also be that most of the people representing users, have never had to earn a living using it.

      Jon Fritz
      Community Expert
      Jon FritzCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      June 20, 2017

      I believe CC and CC2014 had the CSS Designer and an accidentally available, watered down version of the old CSS Window that could be brought up with Ctrl + Alt + Shift + P.

      It was removed completely in CC2015.

      I agree with Al, writing your CSS to the .css file directly with code hinting is going to be faster than any of DW's interface options.

        anissa_thompson
        Community Expert
        anissa_thompsonCommunity Expert
        Community Expert
        June 20, 2017

        Personally, I think the old CSS Panel was easier to navigate, and as I have taught Dreamweaver since version 4, it kind of sucks chafes trying to acclimate new Dreamweaver students to the newer CSS Designer Panel over the old one. When they first introduced CSS Designer, I taught my students from day one to switch back over using that shortcut; I think I actually wimpered out loud when we discovered it no longer worked.

        Preran​ and Dw Team, we would be forever grateful if you would, ever so quietly, re-institute the CSS Panel and its shortcut. Nobody else has to know... it's our little secret (everybody, shhhhhh....)  

        Hope this helps! Make sure to press "✔ Correct Answer" on this post if this answers your question. Happy Creating!Anissa • @anissat
          Preran
          Preran
          Legend
          June 20, 2017

          Hi Anissa, I will definitely make sure that the team knows of your request. This post is already in my classified section.

          Thanks,

          Preran

            ALsp
            ALspCorrect answer
            Legend
            June 20, 2017

            You'll get a lot of advice here :-) But you need to weight it carefully. Adobe's Dreamweaver CC UI could have been much better. They have removed many time-saving features and over-complicated the CSS editing process. The best advice I can give you, and please understand that I know CSS (I truly do ) is to Turn off Related Files and open your CSS directly to edit them. Code hinting is very good. The CSS panel is a waste. It really is, and Adobe will not change it because they think it's a magnificent bit of programming.

              pziecina
              pziecina
              Legend
              June 20, 2017

              Answer to item 1 - I did not, and have not found a version that is better than cs6, (if cs6 was updated it would be better than 2017), i thought css designer was a good idea, but from cc 2014 it appears to have been abandoned.

              Item 2 - You could switch between the cs6 and css designer in the original cc version, but that feature, (which was not officially supported) was removed.

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