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Searching Archive for Older Mac 10.4 (non Intel) Computer Lost Flash Player

  • June 15, 2011
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Hello Forum Users!

I'm sorry to bother you, but checked recent posts and knowledge base and cannot seem to find my problem listed.

Problem starts and ends with older Mac operating system (10.4.11, Yes, I am still using Tiger and my G4 is said not to be acceptable to Leopard so its time for new computer..but until then)....

I have only a 60 GB HD, and it was getting "full" so suggestion I received and someone helped me do it, was to eliminate all old "downloads" I was saving.

Fine....except that while I was cleaning up the older programs I "don't use"  to get more room on the Hard Drive (I had less than 10 GB free and Apples don't like that on their Journal Drives), I accidentally "erased" (then threw out as trash to get room) the  Adobe Flash Player.  Not a problem!  But now of course I remember that is "why" keep normally all "downloads" as files in case I do that....so no older download to use as my own archive.

Ok, not a problem!  Go to Adobe and download a new Flash Player (Of course I can't use 10.3 and all the others you keep referring to, as I don't have an "Intel" chip operating computer, so 10.4 is supported by newer Flash Players but only those using an Intel chip which my computer doesn't have.  (Lap top else I'd try all types of modificactions to work around the problem).

Sorry too many details, but rather let you know now than questions back and forth.

The final irony is that I know of Adobe's Archives and went "back in time" downloading and testing out various Flash Players (sorry, didn't pay attention so I did not ever have marked down which version of older Adobe worked with my 10.4.11).

So I tried all the 10.2's   10.0's  9's (even the developer ones)  I hit the 8's and realized that maybe I'm not doing something right as I do think if you are using 10.3 now, that 8 versions should have been usable according to the June 2010 system requirement lists.

For downloading I select Mac  "other"  as  my operating system since the current specificaitons for downloading list 10.4 to 10.6 as  "Intel" based.

Did I leave anything out?

I really need Adobe Flash Player as most of the web sites are just refusing to display anything but words for me, so just boring now on web without access to all the content that Flash Player provides.  (no more funny You tube videos either of course!).

Can anyone help me with my Adobe problem?

Thanks!

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    Hi Help me ...Have Adobe now  Nothing like Success!!!  So glad you have it all sorted out and FP is working.

    I appreciate your explanation of all of the steps you took. Helps me to understand and others that may see your thread. Many users still use the PPC edition(non-intel).

    You can award points however you want, the important thing is that your thread will have it as answered. This always helps users that use the Search Forums function. I use it myself and look for the answered threads.

    Thanks for the feedback!!

    eidnolb

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    Help_Me_No_AdobeAuthor
    Participating Frequently
    June 20, 2011

    To both of my helpers.....Success! (Skip to end if you don't want to read the details).

    Sorry for the delay in responding to all of your suggestions!

    eidnolb:  Here is what I found on the page with red "f" this time. But using Safari, the whole top of the page says "Flash" meaning that the red "F" is part of a Flash item that is not loading in Safari, but does load in my other Browser, Sea Monkey.

    Using Safari I right clicked (was on wrong page sorry) and got the "ClicktoFlash---Settings" settings

    I do not have regular "settings" anymore on my list just:   Load Flash/Load all on this page/add www.Adobe.com to whitelist/ClicktoFlash Settings.

    And in the Click to Flash Settings there is no box to uncheck for hardware acceleration. Only things like Options/sIFR Text Updates Uninstall (of course) version 1.5.5 if that matters).

    I set up my account in Adobe using Sea Monkey which I do when Safari is fully being used for other purposes that day, so that explains why I got confused sometimes, the Flash Content in Sea Monkey "works" but the same page loaded in Safari does not work.  I do have Firefox, but that has too many saved pages that have not been gone over to "unsave" them when I'm done either printing the contnet or saving the content or bookmarking it, so that is quite unusuable right now so I don't know if any of the flash is working or not on Firefox (and I don't have Chrome loaded in yet....maybe I read it was Leopard only? I forget why it is not
    another choice for me).

    Willener pat's  (finally used a mirror!)  suggestion I try the FP uninstaller again, I made sure it was done using Safari (Sea Monkey does not like it)....and despite it appearing for the higher levels of Mac OSX I tried it....

    Its getting complicated. I can read the instructions how to do it in Sea Monkey, but Sea Monkey does not like the file (does not know what to do with it and offers my entire "Mac" database of applications i.e. word, etc to use it (very bad).  Safari can use the file but I have to click on it without the accompanying instrtuctions to help me as they are not visible or printable anymore from within Safari without Flash.  So I'm using the printed instrucitons from Sea Monkey to follow and Safari to do the downloading!

    I'll work this out yet!

    eidnolb:  I visited http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html after uninstall as you and pat say to do.

    But the message reads:

    "The following displays the type of Flash Player version that this browser is running, and its capabilities.  Usually only developers creating content for Flash Player require this information: "

    But Guess What?  The box is a "FLASH" item!!  So I can't see what version is in there!  (Catch-22 they call that!).

    My company's Flash pages are showing up on both Safari and Sea Monkey, they pause then load even though I've not set them for "permissions" or "whitelist" on the ClicktoFlash"  because the content is created by various people and they have bad web page habits so especially I do not load Flash immediately at my company's web pages, as it can hang or cause scripts to keep working so I have to stop it.  That is why the person I deal with got me "ClicktoFlash" as just because I know how to create a web page, doesn't mean all the other ones I deal with know how!

    I'm thinking at this point, should I try installing back in the  version again?  I guess no harm can come from that so I went back to eidnolb's version in original message and tried to load it in again.

    Result is: nothing!
    I clicked on your address in Sea Monkey and copied to safari and both don't work.  "Page Not Found" Error.

    This is what I clicked on  to get the Flash installer 10.1.102.64  before!  I know it worked then, why not now?  So I'll use the copy I've downloaded before but why is the link not working now?

    eidnolb: June 15, 2011 10:53 am
    Flash installer 10.1.102.64 [http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/installers/archive/fp 10.1.102.64_and_9.0.289.0archive.zip] Open the archive to reveal yet more archives and multiple files. Select: flashplayer101r102_64_ubmac.dmg

    By the way....reading everything that came with the installer program (it appears for developers only as archived version), it says to "restart" system after uninstall.  Maybe that is what I did not do, but I've closed and restarted my computer each time I leave so I know its been "done" in middle of writing your forum replies, I just save it elsewhere and come back to continue writing!

    So closing and restarting everything had no effect.  On the Adobe Find Flash Player Version  page, I still can't "see" the box with version of Flash Player I'm currently running, as its a Flash box that does not activate. The other Adobe page with "red" F still does not show the me  "red" F just a huge "Flash" box that I can't open.

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    So here goes with installing again from the saved version of download (by the by I'm now down to 9.46 GB free since I've opened and downloaded so many files so many times.  Just don't know which to delete as nothing has worked yet!

    Now it works! I think!

    I got the "Find Flash Player Version" page and I can "see" the result
    I'm using Player Version: MAC 10,1,53,64

    Debug Player:  No

    Opening system Mac OS 10.4.11
    Video Capable Yes
    Audio Capable Yes
    Local File I/O Enabled: Yes

    So I guess that is it!
    It works !

    I could have just said this part alone, but wanted both of you to see what steps I took to get it working again!  (Might be helpful to anyone else stupid enough to try to create more room by deleting any large files with unidentified names).

    Which answer fits the bill for "correct" answer? I"ll click on and award points however you both see fit (10 to best answer 5 to possible answers).

    I went to check on the one you (eidnolb) answered about Google Maps (I have a iPad now and always use it for my portable use of Google Maps so didn't notice anything like he mentioned, so I just went in to give a check and Safari and Google Maps are all working fine  with street views  (the orange man---does anyone have a name for him? Have a contest!).  It all works so thanks again.

    Best regards to everyone!

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    Anonymous
    Correct answer
    June 20, 2011

    Hi Help me ...Have Adobe now  Nothing like Success!!!  So glad you have it all sorted out and FP is working.

    I appreciate your explanation of all of the steps you took. Helps me to understand and others that may see your thread. Many users still use the PPC edition(non-intel).

    You can award points however you want, the important thing is that your thread will have it as answered. This always helps users that use the Search Forums function. I use it myself and look for the answered threads.

    Thanks for the feedback!!

    eidnolb

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    Anonymous
    June 18, 2011

    Hi, check this thread out. I would think if this person could use that 10.1.102.64, then you should be able to also. See what you think.  

    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/812290?tstart=0

    Thanks,

    eidnolb

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    Anonymous
    June 15, 2011

    Hi, Well if I've done my homework, this should work for you:

    Hi, That version of Flash Player is Archived: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/142/tn_14266.html 

    You will need to download the Flash Player 10.1 (81.7 MB) and SAVE it to your Desktop. Then you will find the 10.1.102.64 version for the Mac Platform. There is a readme file also.

    Here are instructions from Apple Discussions:

    *Flash Player for PPC Macs*
    Adobe's last release of Flash Player for PPC Macs was in November, 2010 with release 10.1.102.64 Subsequent releases are for Intel based Macs only. To update you should download:

    Flash uninstaller: [http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/865/cpsid_86551.html#prob1=uninst,os=m10.6,] Make sure you get the right one.

    Flash installer 10.1.102.64 [http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/installers/archive/fp 10.1.102.64_and_9.0.289.0archive.zip] Open the archive to reveal yet more archives and multiple files. Select: flashplayer101r102_64_ubmac.dmg

    To install:

    1) Run Disk Utility and verify your hard drive. If the hard drive reports errors then it will need repairing first (another topic). If it verifies, run Disk Utility's repair permissions.

    Quit all applications to ensure nothing is actively using Flash.

    Run the uninstaller application. Adobe says, "Adobe recommends that you restart your computer before you install a different version of the player."

    Run the Installer
    Use Disk Utility to repair permissions on your computer. this is important when installing anything from Adobe.

    7) Restart your computer.

    You may not need these instructions, but I posted them if you do.

    Hope that helps.

    eidnolb

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    Help_Me_No_AdobeAuthor
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    June 16, 2011

    Hello Eldnolb!

    (Wow!  9,659 replies! you must the the expert here in Adobe Forum on these issues!)

    I'm sorry to write to you another (what seems to be already) long letter.

    Thanks for your "possible solution" but where are the two other "helpful solutions" the Forum page mentioned?  When writing I can't check that page so if I used wrong terminology sorry.

    Now to what occurred since your posting.

    I downloaded your 10.1 to desktop and unzipped it using stuffix (my older version has never been updated---either it says and its up to version 14.1? and I'm using version 10 so maybe that is another problem, but I'd have to research if it works with "Tiger" as always have to be careful not to overload the computer by taking in something "modern" that I find out too late causes Tiger problems because it does not work and is not supposed to work with it)

    Back to my tale of woe:  I downloaded your 10.1 from the link (thanks! Link makes it easier than typing it in) and unzipped it using stuffix (took two tries, second one took very very long time, I"m talking half an hour!)  (might be my almost full drive that causes that problem I know).

    I then followed your instructions to use the link to the uninstaller package.  Did that ok, following the screen shots and everything looked fine until it came time to "check" to see if Flash has been fully, successfully unloaded.

    I do not get the warning signs that say Flash is not available or needs to install plug in etc.

    Instead, on my business web page, I get the Flash pictures!  (not as good as originals I lost but something now appears!) and the  one video that started it all (Apple developers conference) now appears on the Apple store website with Steve Jobs, but very very jerky motions and I can't be sure if it is my Tiger, or the Video or what or Adobe that is causing it.

    This contrasts strongly with what I got before which was I was not seeing  those pictures on screen, but  I got the word "FLASH" and when I try to load them nothing happens.  Well this time the Flash pictures appeared!  (but wait! I didn't even use your new Flash player 10.1 yet as I had not finished with the  installation process as I went "away" to follow the instructions for the uninstalling). 

    I tested it using Safari as they say to test it (having closed all programs entirely except for the  "Finder" on the computer using Force Quit if needed.)  Then ran the uninstaller for yet an 8th or 9th time.

    Started up Safari, and guess what?  All my company's pictures appear, and Apple store (my home page) everything appears now and the video too.

    But I have not yet loaded in your 10.1 version!  Nor have I even chosen (I never saw, received or got a choice yet!) your 10.1.102.64 version when Stuffix unzipped it as I don't know where on the desktop it went)  (too many items and checking Finder page again I've saved too many similiar appearing downloads, but not to worry I checked by date and what I find is not those items but just the downloaded "fp10.1_archive.zip" and the unzipped folder: "fp10.1_archive" which I only opened for the first time now to write its name down for this letter.  I did not and have not "installed" flash player.

    Oh by the way, my occasional helper with Mac here long ago set up my Safari for somethign I call "Flash upon request" is the only way I know to describe it that you have to press the "FLASH" name on the screen in the box to get to "see" the Flash content as if they did not, it was slowing down my loading of web pages, so it was a solution for that.  I know about that and accept that Flash does not normally appear when my pages open, unless I request it.  Since I do not know what selection did that I'm just mentioning it as maybe that selection is what is "keeping" flash installed in the computer and not letting it "go away" so I can reinstall the correct one 10.1?

    It is what I've been doing for past 2-3 years so I'm used to having pages with the word "FLASH" or  Plug in missing normally.  But again what prompted my writing the first time was that clicking on them no longer got me the Flash content.

    But whatever I did now, the  Flash comes up immediately without my asking for it when I open a page, and I'm puzzled as to how I could have downloaded the  new Flash when I keep asking for it to be uninstalled unsuccessfully.

    Does any of this make sense to you Eldnolb? or anyone else out there familiar with Macs?  (Tiger OSX).

    Oh jumping ahead in the instructions from you (and Adobe), I will again verify disk and repair again whenever I get up to that stage but I thought you would like to know that my other expert had done a complete verify disk and all other items in that doctor-like utility about a month ago, before I erased Adobe trying to save space, so unless my deletions caused something else to go wrong I'm assuming my disk drive, etc are all physically working ok

    Thanks again!

    pwillener
    pwillener
    Legend
    June 16, 2011

    I wouldn't worry too much why Flash Player is working, as long as it is working.

    You can check what version you now have at http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

    P.S. regarding your limited disk space: CCleaner has been used by Windows users for many years to clean cr*p from their hard drivers (that's what the first C in CCleaner stands for).

    Now I just wanted to tell you that CCleaner is now available for the Mac (http://www.piriform.com/mac) as a public beta, but I now noticed that only OS X 10.5  and 10.6 are supported - sorry!

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