Yikes - OK sorry I used RGB outside the Adobe RGB space - and now this bunny hole has now come to an end. Thanks for all your patience and input. ... View more

Oh yikes. Thanks. My favorite - too. On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:33 AM G.Hoffmann <forums_noreply@adobe.com> ... View more

Yeah - I'm frustrating everyone, I can see that. I was watching a photoshop cc tutorial and the guy said go to view and "I set mine at sRGB" - which now I can see that was just for output to a jpeg. Anyway - that got me thinking do I need to set my monitor in a particular way. It's already calabarated to my printer and I'm getting good results but is this something I need to pay attention to. Never came up before. Does it make a difference? I did research on the internet and it just confused me a bit - saying RGB allows a bigger color spectrum than sRGB. So, I asked myself why wouldn't I want access to that? But I see know wht you are trying to communicate. But you are not all saying the same thing tho - here's Daves answer which says to set it at RGB - my guess is he has a monitor that shows the greater color spectrum and his own printing process. Hi Start at the beginning and shoot Raw files from your camera. These have no colour space but use 14 bits for each raw channel (12 bits on older cameras). Don't worry about setting the camera to sRGB or Adobe RGB that is only for output to 8bit/channel jpegs which you definitely do not want to do for any work that will be processed later to large prints. In Adobe Camera Raw or Lightroom you develop your RAW files into a RGB images and you want the output to be 16 bits/channel. At this point you also allocate a colour space. The three most common RGB colour spaces are sRGB (the narrowest space that covers the least colours), Adobe RGB (wider i.e more colours covered) and ProPhoto (very wide). You would think, and you do see recommendations, that you would ouput as Pro-Photo, however it contains lots of colours that you will never see on a monitor (even a wide gamut monitor) and personally I use Adobe RGB which easily covers the colours on my monitor and printer. That way I can predict what is going to print. If you have to send an image to the web, export a copy and convert it to sRGB at that Export stage. If you are serious about colour then you need to ensure that your monitor is displaying colours correctly. That means using a hardware device to calibrate and profile the monitor. Photoshop will use the monitor profile and convert the document colours as it displays them so they look correct on your monitor. Dave On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:58 AM Test Screen Name <forums_noreply@adobe.com> ... View more

I guess what you are saying is since my monitor can't see all the colors available in Adobe RGB then I should disregard that setting as a profile for my monitor? My work is very color intense (juliestclair.com) and since I've updated my camera and now photoshop I just want to be sure I'm progressing along with that in that I'm using all the tools available to me in my work. Does that make sense? ... View more

To be clear, the only reason this has come up is because I was watching a tutorial that came with the photoshop cc upgrade. The instructor said to view and set it to sRGB. I did some research and there seemed to be a whole discussion between the two and which offered the bigger array of colors. So, I wanted to sort that out. I just discovered from this email conversation that I should go to edit/convert to profile and it was the same window that comes up under view proof-set up and it contained the info I put in - Adobe RGB (1998) On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 1:38 AM Test Screen Name <forums_noreply@adobe.com> ... View more

Convert to profile brings up the same window as view - I have it set for Adobe RGB (1998) ... View more

I was watching a photoshop cc video and they said to set it this way - sRGB so I was just curious as to how this affecting what I see on screen. I didn't want to change anything because my prints are coming out really well. So, I just started to investigate and, well, as you can see from all the responses it's a bit of a bunny hole. ... View more

got it! thank you. On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 3:56 PM Per Berntsen <forums_noreply@adobe.com> ... View more

got it! thanks for your patience. On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 4:09 PM Derek Cross <forums_noreply@adobe.com> ... View more

Got it! Thanks. On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 4:25 PM Per Berntsen <forums_noreply@adobe.com> ... View more

Alrighty! Then why is there a choice in the menu between the two? ... View more

Hi Derek - I'm trying to read all this input and I have done most of what makes sense to me.  I've made all the suggested moves that apply to what I'm getting after. I understand camera raw and have made your suggested moves there. There is still one area that I'm not grasping in how if does or does not affect the final outcome - or if it is only a viewing option that well, could effect the final outcome. It has to do with the proof-set up and proof colors. As I mentioned I have my imac is calibrated to several printers and the work has been coming out very good. Now that I have updated to photoshop cc of course all kinds of new windows and questions and I'm just trying to be sure I've got this right. From what you've said - this area - proof set-up is just that, a preview. But, if I'm previewing my work, what is the best selection for that? RBG or sRBG? I'm not sure I grasp the significance of color space vs color mode. If you can make an analogy on that concept and why it matter, if it does, please do. ... View more

So how do I navigate directly to camera raw - this is a program within bridge or photoshop - I see it in my library but I'm not able to open as a stand alone. I'm not familiar with where to go to affect/change it on its own. Only that it works within my bridge/photoshop program. On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 2:41 PM Per Berntsen <forums_noreply@adobe.com> ... View more

Hi Dave, Thanks for the info - you have made this more clear to me. I have been doing fine art work for some time but I just upgraded my canon camera to the EOS 6D Mark ll, with new lenses too, so that I can take my work large(er) scale for hotel lobbies and such - in doing so I had to update photoshop and, well, you know the bunny hole - windows pop up and then you have to question things and recheck all your settings. I work with two printers online. I have my monitor calibrated to them and have been getting good results in terms of color match. So, in conclusion, in reading everyones response and your contribution is 1. leave my camera where is set on default which is sRGB because that is not affecting my raw files -this only effects jpeg files 2. set my photoshop (under view/proof-set-up) to Adobe RGB 1998 as I see no option for just RGB 3. I know how to output small files for web use 4. I check with my printer on best type of file to send for reproduction Anything else? ... View more