Bit the bullet and rolled back to 20.0.1 – much better. Read this article today. Feels very familiar. https://www.creativebloq.com/features/what-happened-to-quark – Price gouging when perceived to have a monopoly. Not having a 'Design bundle' offering ID, PS, IL and Acrobat at a reasonable price compared to having to buy the entire Creative Cloud subscription is outrageous. I've asked our rep about whether it exists behind the scenes, and it doesn't. A cold, hard gouge by Adobe. – Dated software that can't make use of modern hardware with multiple process cores. Still runs poorly on my M3 Macbook Pro. So is Adobe now the monopoly player Quark once was? Is the company unconcerned with how user-unfriendly many product features are because it knows by now it has little to fear from the likes of Scribus, Quark itself or any number of other alternatives? Maybe there's a programmer in a garage or spare room somewhere coding tomorrow's leaner, nimbler, more compelling page layout tool and history will only repeat itself.   I really hope so. This software is junk compared to modern offerings like Figma. ... View more

Hi Dave, I'm on 20.1 – that was the update that happened in late January.    I've been suffering through waiting for an update to come through. Can't believe it hasn't yet.     ... View more

I'm also having an issue with selection and moving frames. When I select an object, it takes a few seconds for the frame to be highlighted. If I move it using mouse, there is a delay. If I move it using keyboard arrow keys, the object doesn't move until I click the mouse on the paste board, or use the W key to toggle on/off preview. This issue is exacerbated when working on my dual 4K screens, but still present working on 1x UHD screen + MBP screen. VERY FRUSTRATING and major impact on productivity. This software is way too expensive to have these types of bugs making it through to releases and not patched immediately.  I'm on MacOS 15.3. Macbook Pro M3 Max and Indesign 20.1. Updated on 26/27th January. Preferences rolled back to factory with no improvement. ... View more

Sadly not, Indesign crashing again on Duplicate Spread via any method. This time, (3rd time it's happened) crashes the whole system. I've deleted preferences, caches, updated Sonoma to 14.4, Indesign to 19.3. No joy.   ... View more

I have 14.3.1, which at the time of the OP, was the latest (in Australia, we don't get software releases at the same time as US). I can now see that 14.4 is available but I will wait until the weekend to upgrade in case it causes new issues. An update to 19.3 was released here and I updated it yesterday. The laggy responses to switching documents, panning around the screen, zoom in/out still remain, but I've been able to duplicate pages in the Pages palette without crashing Indesign, so that must have been a known bug fixed in the 19.3. Baby steps.   ... View more

Hi Rob, thanks for the tip – checked and the layer is set to print. This bug resolved itself in the file after I quit Indesign and restarted. Not sure if it's how Preview mode works, but wondering if the preview is cached as changes are made to the file and the cached view was out of sync? ... View more

My old machine was a 2020 Macbook Pro with an Intel chip i9 chip, not Windows. It was constantly running out of ram at 32GB and the fan was constantly running as it often got up to 80ºC (180F). My business also changes over hardware for financial/tax reasons.   Other designers in my studio have M1 and M2 Macbook Pros with maxed out CPU/GPU & 64gb RAM and, other than the known issues like the screen explosions, they run ID much faster than my old 2020 MBP, and sadly more reliably than my new M3. They are on Ventura and wont' be updaing to Sonoma.   Your commentary using Figma and Canva in the same sentence is interesting. Figma is anything but amateur-focused and in the space of a few years blown away Photoshop and Sketch (and XD) as the industry standard for UI design. It produces a different finished product, but as a design application experience, it leaves Indesign for dead. Third party developers are already creating CMYK plugins for it. An 'it'll never happen mentality' is probably how Quark Xpress went from industry standard to dead in a matter of years. It might not be Figma itself, but ID feels like old, bloated software these days and is ripe for being knocked off by a more modern application – one that doesn't have a fundamental one-core limitation, maybe?   I'm keen to hear what you think I'm doing wrong with my setup other than having and OS that's 6 months old and expecting ID to run on it? I've loaded 4 typefaces outside of what comes with the OS. I'm working off the inbuilt SSD. Other designers in my studio are all using the same .indt files that I'm using without any major issues.   Bottom line here is that if Sonoma is the lone source of my issues – and anybody else who's bought a new Mac in the last 6 months – Adobe need's to prioritise building a release that works on this OS. They've had long enough. ... View more

The templates I'm referring to are ones I've built and refined myself, .indt files that I use as clean starting points to layout 40+ retail press advertisements per week, not purchased templates. I've been using since 2015 without issue, until changing over to new machine. To your point about machine specs, check this link for how you can configure the 16" model https://www.apple.com/au/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/16-inch There are a limited number of combinations of RAM/CPU/GPU specifications – you can't get a powerful GPU without a powerful CPU. For starters, choosing 16" over 14" screen size automatically bumps you up to the M3Pro chip. Certain RAM sizes are only available with certain CPU/GPU pairings, etc.    My team all work off our built-in HDs, which are then synced to Dropbox for remote sharing – no NAS servers or networking weakpoints to my knowledge.   They are on either M1 or M2 chip machines with similar core specifications to mine, but all on Ventura and while not perfect by any stretch, don't have anywhere near the number of issues I'm having.   I appreciate your perspective that I've overspecfified my machine, though I do some video work too. However, regardless of the cost, I have some of the best hardware available and this software runs poorly on it. I can only presume that Adobe had partner/beta releases of Sonoma for some time prior to general release in Sept 2023 – it was showcased in June 2023. How long do they need to build a compatible release, while I keep paying thousands per year for my team's licences? Personally hoping that a new contender comes on the market – Figma for print maybe – that knocks ID off its perch, like it did to Quark Xpress when it became outdated. ... View more

All of the problems you list are common to me too. Other annoying regressions for me are snap-to guides not working accurately and not being able to double-click into grouped objects. Yes, I'm confident – I think – the finished PDF files will be representative, it's more of a concern in the proofing/amendment rounds when things are done in a hurry. Sometimes I don't have time to thoroughly check the PDF and have to trust that the software isn't letting me down. I have rulers turn off and find that has improved erratic screen redraws. I flip between GPU off and GPU on with Animated Zoom unticked. Animate Zoom, which I used daily on old machine is a disaster – taken 2 weeks to unlearn using that keyboard & mouse combination. Hope for both our sakes that these issues get resolved. Not good enough from Adobe IMO – I pay thousands a year for my team's Creative Cloud licences. ... View more

James,   1) Text boxes that contain a price, e.g. $7,099 when viewed in Normal view, change to $0,000 (as per the template I started creating the document) when viewed in Preview, triggered using the W shortcut. See before and after from movie I took of it.  I'm sure you can undestand how this could be a frightening bug when sending out press ads that are seen by millions of readers. The issue did not occur in the same file once I'd quit Indesign and restarted.       2) There are a number of performance issues. Zooming in/out using various methods is not responosive, screen redraw when using the hand to pan around the layout is laggy or glitchy, switching between open documents is slower than my old Mac, duplicating pages in the Pages palette crashes Indesign every time. I could go on.   3) The machine came with Sonoma installed. I got it in February. Sonoma was released in September 2023 – I think it's unreasonable to expect users to backdate their OS on new hardware after 5 months. I'd suggest that developer effort could be focused entirely on stable Sonoma release and the list of long-unresolved bugs, rather than niche enhancements and extenstions.   4) I'm based in Australia. We pay far more for Apple gear here, regardless of USD exchange rate. My 2020 MBP would max out of the 32GB RAM; I can't see why opting for a high spec CPU/GPU configuration to maximise the machine's lifespan would be viewed as a poor decision.  I haven't used Windows for 20 years – not sure whey you'd introduce that to this discussion.   5) I'm interested to hear what bottlenecks users need to address to get the software to run nicely on premium hardware. My documents are not complex, generally no more than 4 pages and based on templates I've been using for 10 years. ... View more

Same problem. OS 10.13.6 saving to Synology NAS. Says the file is already open even when Acrobat is closed. Crazy stuff, big time waster to have to quit both apps every time to overwrite file. ... View more

Yes, it's fine. I've exported from Sheets to a .xlsx file. It's just incredibly flaky – It will work one time and then not the next, and the next, and the next ... and then start working again. So frustrating and I'll blow my budget if I have to manually reconfigure the data into individual tab delimited files to import into the Graph Data interface. I'm dying here. ... View more

Impossible to understand this decision/change. ... View more