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Atticus Lake
Participating Frequently
June 20, 2023

Movie exports as black video

  • June 20, 2023
  • 11 replies
  • 1189 views

I have a project which I've been working on for years.  It's 1 hour 42 minutes, 1920x1080, 29.97 FPS, and pretty complex, with a lot of nested sequences, After Effects includes (just some pretty basic animated diagrams), titles, etc.

Up until about 8 days ago all was well.  I would edit, export, and watch on my TV. I last did this just around 8 day ago, no problem.

But now, as I'm trying to make the FINAL render after some last tweaks, it's completely failing.  The video still edits fine in PP, plays fine, no problem.  But when I export, the exported video is just black -- audio is OK, but video is black.  ALMOST every time.

 

I am using PP 23.4.0 on Windows 10.  Computer is a laptop, but pretty beefy, 64GB RAM, Nvidia 2070.

 

I have tried:

  • CUDA, OpenCL, and software renderers in project settings.
  • CUDA, OpenCL, and software renderers in Media Encoder
  • Direct export from Premiere (not using Media Encoder)
  • Shutting down and restarting PP / ME
  • Rebooting computer
  • Updated NVIDIA driver
  • Uinstall and re-install Premiere, After Effects and Media encoder
  • Delete all of my APP_DATA local Adobe settings
  • Multiple different encode presets -- with and without max depth, max quality, etc., different bitrates...

One thing that often works is deleting part of my project -- doesn't seem to matter which part.  But of course I want the whole movie!

Other than that I just tinker around at random.  Tried deleting After Effects bits, and re-adding them, etc... once in a blue moon it works, apparently at random.  But then I need to make another tweak and it's back to HOURS of fiddling around just to try to get an export.  Once it starts exporting and shows video in the preview, it seems to be OK, but it can take HOURS to get there,

 

This situation is completely unacceptable to me, so I'm about ready to jump to Resolve -- no matter how painful the transition is, it can scarcely be worse.  But I would really like to get PP working again, as it did until just recently.

 

So... any ideas?

11 replies

Adobe Employee
September 21, 2023

Which Nvidia Driver do you use? Did you try if that also happens in softwware only mode? Is direct export also showing black videos?


Participant
September 21, 2023

I am also dealing with this issue. I have the same exact issues as the original poster but I am working on a new iMac. Would be nice to see a real solve on this from the @eckiAMETeam @jstrawn adobe teams. This is a critical issue in professional settings. 

Known Participant
July 26, 2023

reinstalling ME has seemed to solve the issue... for now. Will observe the behaviour and write if anything changed. 

Known Participant
July 25, 2023

Hi, I am having the same issue as of the current Update Premiere (23.5.0), ME (23.5). As opposed to Atticus I render a lot of short videos per day and have a large sample pool of when it works and when it doesnt. Randomly when I put video to the cue from Premiere to Media Encoder, it will render a black video with sound. 

 

Sometimes I can manipulate ME to rendering the video by clicking on the blue link under the "preset" column, where it opens the dynamic link window. When I press Ok in there it will render the video, if I dont go through the process it will be black. SOMETIMES. 

 

What also helped for SOME videos is going into settings and unchecking the "General > Import sequences natively" Box. That worked for around 10 videos and then it was back to exporting black videos. 

 

I have tried switching from H.264 to H.265, and that helped for like 5-10 videos until ME went back to rendering black videos. 

 

For now I am back to exporting videos manually through Premiere, but that is really not ideal. I would be thankfull for any help on solving this issue!

 

I have tried all render modes, software only etc. 

 

thanks. 

Atticus Lake
Participating Frequently
June 28, 2023

OK. tried those.  It looks like software encoding makes no difference.  But turning "Import sequences natively" OFF fixes the problem -- although an encode is VERY slow then.

 

Here are the detailed tests I tried.  First some SW/HW tests using my existing settings:

  • PP: Hardware encoding; ME: CUDA; Result: Black
  • PP: Software encoding; ME: Software only; Result: Black (verified)
  • PP: Software encoding; direct export; Result: Good (verified)
  • PP: Hardware encoding; direct export; Result: Good (verified)

Then, in ME, "Import sequences natively" was ON -- turned it OFF

  • PP: Hardware encoding; ME: CUDA; Result: Good (verified) but SLOW!

 

Normally in ME I can see that it's producing black video because the little preview is black.  "Verified" means I let it run all the way and confirmed that the output file really is black.

 

In the tests I just did, the output file was 5.5GB, regardless of whether it was black or not.  This is wierd; previously the black video case produced a smaller file.  I don't understand that.

 

Thanks for your continued investigation.

Adobe Employee
June 27, 2023

Sorry for your issues. Can you try toggle "Import sequences natively"? Can you also try software only mode?

This is just about trying to narrow down your issue.

Atticus Lake
Participating Frequently
June 22, 2023

Thank you.  I'd be happy to do any more experiments you can suggest, get log files, etc.

jstrawn
Community Manager
Community Manager
June 21, 2023

@Atticus Lake Thank you for trying it some more and for that additional information. We definitely don't want export to fail by any method, so I've moved this report to the Media Encoder bugs forum.

Atticus Lake
Participating Frequently
June 21, 2023

Ah, it seems I was wrong about that -- direct export apparently does work.  It's only the Media Encoder route that produced black video.

 

Media Encoder is what I virtually always use.  I know I tested direct export, but I must have got the results mixed up.

 

Anyhow, direct export seems OK, so I guess I at least have a workaround.  But I hope ME gets fixed, becuase this is still a big pain.

 

BTW I tried this in another, completely unconnected project, only about 19 minutes long, but UHD.  I got the same results -- with direct export it's fine, but with Media Encoder I only get black video.  Audio OK, but nothing on the video.  (Also the file is way smaller.)  Again, this is after un-installing and re-installing PP, AE and ME.

 

Sorry for the bad info.

Atticus Lake
Participating Frequently
June 20, 2023

Yes -- I usually use ME.  But I tried it both ways,