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cof-sali
Participating Frequently
April 10, 2023

Source Range work area showing odd behavior

  • April 10, 2023
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When encoding a PP sequence in ME, if the source range is set to Work Area when in PP in the Export pane, I am having the in-out points change when more than one preset is applied to a single source. In ME I check the export settings for that source, the first instance will show the in-out points to be the full work area from PP

 

when I apply a any number of additional presets and check the export settings those instances all will show a truncated in-out points on the out point end.  (see screen captures of the in-out points).

 

 

Changing the range to Entire Range will return the in-out points the full sequence (work area).  Or I can manually extend the out point - which creates a Cusotm range.

 

 

This behavior does not happen when encoding a PP sequence in ME if the source range is set to Entire Sequence when in PP.

 

Am I missing something?

6 replies

cof-sali
cof-saliAuthor
Participating Frequently
April 13, 2023

@eckiAMETeam 

PP ver 23.2.0

ME ver 23.2.1

Windows 10 Pro (my work machine that IT controls; I am a mac person in my regular life)

 

Again - thank you for your efforts.  

I am hoping you are able to replicate this issue so that this issue can be resolved.

 

-Sali

Adobe Employee
April 13, 2023

I was not able to reproduce your issue with Aobe Media Encoder (Beta) 23.4.0.44 on macOS 13.3.1.

I exported a sequence with work area in Premiere Pro. I added more variants by dropping presets directly below the item in the queue. I verified the source area settings. All looked correct.

What system are you on?

cof-sali
cof-saliAuthor
Participating Frequently
April 11, 2023

All presets are applied drag and drop style in AME.  The export pane in PP is for me a pass through to ME where I do all my work.

 

Glad my second explanation made sense.  🙂

Adobe Employee
April 11, 2023

Thank you very much for your report and for clarifying. I have filed a bug.

One more question: how do you add the very first item that you "reuse"? Using drag and drop? From the AME menu? From within Premiere Pro?

cof-sali
cof-saliAuthor
Participating Frequently
April 11, 2023

@eckiAMETeam  My description of my problem was hard for me to describe and I didn't do a really good job above.  So let me try again.

 

I understand about the different source ranges and how the in-out points respond to each.  My using one for the other is kind of my way to address this anomoly that is happening for me, which is a new behavior - I've typically in the past selected Work Area and that was that.  Really, I have not had to make that selection since Work Area was typically the default selection.

 

Here is how the exporting process is working for me now.

  • In PP I export a sequence to ME.
  • I ensure that Work Area is selected in the Export Panel in PP.
  • In ME I apply a preset to the source.
  • I confirm the destination is correct for that render.
  • Then, when I have to do multiple versions of a render for that same source, I will then apply each additional preset to the same source - I click the preset and drag to it to the que and release it above the source to add it to the other presets applied to that source.
  • I again confrim destination is correct for each additional preset applied.

Typically that should be all I need to do.

 

But now the odd behavior is that the renders from the additionally applied presets are truncated or shortened, but the render from the first applied preset is the full Work Area.  When I redo the renders I have to now also confirm that the in-out points are indeed the full Work Area by moving the out point from inside the Edit Settings pane - and when I do that the Source Range updates from Work Area to Custom.  That is what my screen captures were showing.

 

I have rebooted my machine.  I am using latest version of ME (I am not at that edit machine now so cannot tell you which version number).  

 

Now my workflow is that I follow all of the above steps but now add the step to confirm and correct the in-out points every time.

 

To me, this is a bug.  I am asking here to report the bug, but to also confirm that I am not the one at fault and perhaps may be missing something in this exporting procecess.  And I am not sure if this odd behavior is happening in PP or in ME.

 

Hoping this description is more clear.

Adobe Employee
April 11, 2023

I am not sure if I understand you correctly.

Adobe Media Encoder supports four different source ranges:

  1. Whole sequence uses the whole sequence, session or clip passed to AME.
  2. In & Out points from Prelude, Audition and Premiere Pro sequences, clips, and sessions explicitly set starting and end points.
  3. Working areas from Premiere Pro or After Effects.
  4. Custom source range uses the In and Out points from the AME export settings.

    Please note that In & Out points and working areas are different source range settings concepts. See documentation for Premiere Pro and After Effects.

    Are you saying that the work area changes when you export multiple versions of an PPro sequence directly in AME?