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Daisuke Yanagiya
Daisuke Yanagiya
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June 18, 2020

P: Camera Raw/Lightroom Classic: X100V Camera Profile White Balance Shift

  • June 18, 2020
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Strange behavior of camera profiles for X100V.
When applying camera profiles (like Camera Provia/Standard) to X100V RAW, white balance (temperature/tint) automatically shift.
This is specific behavior of X100V raw, the other Fujifilm Cameras don't reproduce this.

X-T3 and X-T30 use Camera Profiles v2, but X100V uses old original Camera Profiles v1.


It's inconvenient when dealing with multiple X-Series cameras with common preset.

Camera: X100V
Macbook Pro 16
LrC 9.3

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    Rikk Flohr_Photography
    Community Manager
    Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
    Community Manager
    August 18, 2020

    Updates to Camera Raw, Lightroom Classic, and the Lightroom Ecosystem were released yesterday evening and contain a fix for this issue.  Please install the appropriate update and see if it solves this problem.

    Thank you for your patience.
    Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
    Daisuke Yanagiya
    Daisuke YanagiyaAuthor
    Known Participant
    June 19, 2020
    Hello Rikk
    Thanks for your response, then I'll wait for the upcoming release.
    TheDigitalDog
    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    June 19, 2020
    So it's a specific Adobe supplied profile?
    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
    Rikk Flohr_Photography
    Community Manager
    Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
    Community Manager
    June 19, 2020
    The Camera Raw team has reviewed this issue and determined that there is a slight difference in WB AS Shot between Adobe raw and CM profiles. We will correct this in an upcoming release. 

    Thank you for the report. 
    Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
    Daisuke Yanagiya
    Daisuke YanagiyaAuthor
    Known Participant
    June 19, 2020
    Why? I'm reporting this issue and asking questions because I don't know why.

    Both LrC and Lr offer "v2" camera profiles for X-T3, v1 is not available for X-T3
    Both LrC and Lr offer "v1" camera profiles for X100V, v2 is not available for X100V

    #1. X-T3 / LrC / v2 Camera Profile : No white balance shift
    #2. X-T3 /  Lr   / v2 Camera Profile : No white balance shift
    #3. X100V / LrC / v1 Camera Profile : White balance shift occurs
    #4. X100V /  Lr   / v1 Camera Profile : No white balance shift

    Only #3 has this issue. I hope this clarify your misunderstanding.
    TheDigitalDog
    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    June 19, 2020
    If it is a profile issue why doesn't it manifest in both products and why not use a better (custom) profile?

    ” Confirmed standard Lr (not classic) don't reproduce this WB shift issue. ”
    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
    Daisuke Yanagiya
    Daisuke YanagiyaAuthor
    Known Participant
    June 19, 2020
    Sorry, I don't understand your logic at all. It's obviously X100V specific profile issue.
    Is there any camera that LrC behave like this?
    TheDigitalDog
    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    June 19, 2020
    Then it's not a profile issue.
    Be useful to have an raw from the camera, ideally of a ColorChecker to test.
    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
    Daisuke Yanagiya
    Daisuke YanagiyaAuthor
    Known Participant
    June 19, 2020
    This WB shift issue reproduce when the LrC's WB is set "as shot" regardless of in-camera WB settings when the photo was taken.
    The WB don't shift when you specify Temperature/Tint value or select WB items from pull down list (like daylight) in LrC.

    Confirmed standard Lr (not classic) don't reproduce this WB shift issue.
    TheDigitalDog
    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    June 19, 2020
    Yes is a simple answer that is possible. In fact you verify that's the case (exactly why ONLY Adobe who has the source code know). Now again, is it solely the profile? Comparison with a custom daylight profile would provide a better idea.
    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
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