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thix2112
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May 3, 2023

P: Denoise AI and Pentax K3 MKIII DNG files - not working

  • May 3, 2023
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I'm not seeing any noise reduction using Denoise AI on Pentax K3iii DNG files in Lightroom Classic v12.3. Any future solution to this issue?

Thanks

Tom

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andrzejv90126968
Known Participant
February 24, 2024

Ale na początku to odszumianie działało i to nawet fajnie. 

andrzejv90126968
Known Participant
February 23, 2024

Redukcja Szumów AI nie poprawia zdjeć zrobionych aparatmi marki Pentax plików PEF zdjecie jest tak samo zaszumione jak było jest tylko wyostrzone.

Lightroom Classic 13.1 i 13.2

 

danilot27785307
Inspiring
February 16, 2024

Hi Rikk, I own a K3iii (edited) and I ahve the same issue not having the AI denoise reduction working as expected. All the sftware are updated and I can add  the same issue is using .PEF file produced with the camera not only using the .DNG file. I do not know if this is relevant for the guys that are investigating but the question is : as far as you know any statement from Adobe? Any idea of solution if planned? Thanks

deejjjaaaa
Inspiring
February 5, 2024

I don't have DxO but I do have Topaz PhotoAI and it also cannot remove the noise from the Ricoh files I linked to above

 

wrong bet on tools on your part... DxO can remove that noise ( DeepPrime seems to work better than DeepPrimeXD ) from those Ricoh raw files

 

>  The problem is the files the camera produces just like with the Pentax K3 where Photo AI and other AI noise reduction software also won't work, so this issue is not unique to Lightroom. 

as noted there is no problem - DxO PL AI/ML NR works on those raw files... just get the tools that actually work, stop complaining

PS: and as a bonus DxO PL comes with optics corrections for your Ricoh's... so DNG you will export to ACR/LR will have both NR and optics corrections already applied

Community Expert
February 4, 2024
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you can always get DxO PhotoLab and use it's AI/ML NR and then export DNG to be used in ACR/LR ... just like with Adobe you of course will be saddled with an extra DNG

I don't have DxO but I do have Topaz PhotoAI and it also cannot remove the noise from the Ricoh files I linked to above (https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/9930153897/ricoh-gr-iii-sample-gallery/6881829042 I used the ISO 1600 image of green flowers). The problem is the files the camera produces just like with the Pentax K3 where Photo AI and other AI noise reduction software also won't work, so this issue is not unique to Lightroom. 

JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 4, 2024

@Jao vdL Thanks. When I wrote my answer, the question wasn't merged with this thread yet, so I wasn't aware of the issue.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
deejjjaaaa
Inspiring
February 4, 2024

DxO can, so there is no reason why Adobe in principle can not

deejjjaaaa
Inspiring
February 4, 2024

you can always get DxO PhotoLab and use it's AI/ML NR and then export DNG to be used in ACR/LR ... just like with Adobe you of course will be saddled with an extra DNG 

Community Expert
February 4, 2024

@JohanElzenga Raw files from the Ricoh cameras have the same issue as the Pentax that the thread is about. AI denoise does nothing to the noise in the images. Just confirmed with some files from: https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/9930153897/ricoh-gr-iii-sample-gallery/6881829042 and yeah, AI denoise does not reduce the noise in those files at all either. I think perhaps the raw files on this camera are also preprocessed by the camera before writing out so AI denoise can't do its job anymore.

Participant
February 4, 2024

Wondering when can we have the AI Noise Reduction feature support for Ricoh GR III and GR IIIx?? Now its not working at all.

Sorely missed, as the manual options arent doing good enough with these rather noisy sensors at night (otherwise brilliant IQ cameras)...

 

Thanks!

JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 4, 2024

Are you shooting in jpeg? AI Denoise is supported for all raw files that are supported, and the raw files of these two cameras have been supported in Lightroom Classic for a long time. https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
Participant
March 9, 2025

Bonjour,

 

L'ia de reduction de bruit ne fonctionne pas avec les DNG du ricoh GRIIIx.

Hoes il fonctionne avec les RAF de mon fujyfilm XS10.

 

Cordialement

Nicolas Bailles