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May 3, 2023

P: Denoise AI and Pentax K3 MKIII DNG files - not working

  • May 3, 2023
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I'm not seeing any noise reduction using Denoise AI on Pentax K3iii DNG files in Lightroom Classic v12.3. Any future solution to this issue?

Thanks

Tom

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February 28, 2024

An error in my previous post: it's a Pentax KF, not a Pentax XF.

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February 28, 2024

Hello, denoise of a Pentax XF RAW file inefficient with LightRoom Classic.
I changed computer and my new iMac 2023 M3 is less efficient in noise removal with camera Raw AI. The previous one (intel core i5) was very slow (10 mn) but the result was conclusive. Now there's no difference between the original dng (without denoise) and the dng file with sharpening. Any explanation? Could the version of Photoshop for Apple chips be responsible?

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February 28, 2024

To chip in: I have the same problem with my K-3 MK iii. I would love to stay with Lightroom. I liked the denoise with my K-5 and Lightroom is easy to use but if this doesn't get fixed, I might not continue my subscription and switch to DxO PhotoLab. There I can use denoise although it is not as good as what I have seen with Lightroom and my K-5, imo.

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February 27, 2024

Bonjour, j'ai changé d'ordi et mon nouvel iMac 2023 M3 est moins efficace dans la suppression du bruit avec l'IA de camera Raw. Le précédent (intel core i5) était très lent (10 mn) mais le résultat était concluant. À présent il n'y pas de différence entre le dng original (sans denoise) et le fichier dng avec accentuation. Une explication ? La version de Photoshop pour les puces d'Apple serait-elle responsable ?

Sameer K
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March 13, 2024

Hey, @Frédéric35684885lrp8. Welcome to the Photoshop Community. I'll need more info to help you figure this out. Please share the system info from Photoshop Help > System info > Copy & paste into a text document > upload & attach here. 

 

Please share a few sample original images & Denoised results on both devices to help us compare the results. 

As a test, try using Bridge > Camera Raw for Denoise & check their results in Bridge.

 

Thanks! 

Sameer K

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March 14, 2024
Hello, as the files are too large to be sent by email, here is the address of my DropBox shared folder:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/z215buyac1brbsftbgn5r/h?rlkey=nyvjr749xqp6cv5nbk5zu2ens&dl=0
Ce n’est pas la puce Apple M3 qui est responsable des mauvais résultats de la réduction du bruit pour les fichiers PENTAX, comme je le croyais au début. Avec le fichier Raw du Lumix FZ 300 la réduction du bruit est excellente.
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Frédéric Moreau
andrzejv90126968
Known Participant
February 24, 2024

Ale na początku to odszumianie działało i to nawet fajnie. 

andrzejv90126968
Known Participant
February 23, 2024

Redukcja Szumów AI nie poprawia zdjeć zrobionych aparatmi marki Pentax plików PEF zdjecie jest tak samo zaszumione jak było jest tylko wyostrzone.

Lightroom Classic 13.1 i 13.2

 

danilot27785307
Inspiring
February 16, 2024

Hi Rikk, I own a K3iii (edited) and I ahve the same issue not having the AI denoise reduction working as expected. All the sftware are updated and I can add  the same issue is using .PEF file produced with the camera not only using the .DNG file. I do not know if this is relevant for the guys that are investigating but the question is : as far as you know any statement from Adobe? Any idea of solution if planned? Thanks

deejjjaaaa
Inspiring
February 5, 2024

I don't have DxO but I do have Topaz PhotoAI and it also cannot remove the noise from the Ricoh files I linked to above

 

wrong bet on tools on your part... DxO can remove that noise ( DeepPrime seems to work better than DeepPrimeXD ) from those Ricoh raw files

 

>  The problem is the files the camera produces just like with the Pentax K3 where Photo AI and other AI noise reduction software also won't work, so this issue is not unique to Lightroom. 

as noted there is no problem - DxO PL AI/ML NR works on those raw files... just get the tools that actually work, stop complaining

PS: and as a bonus DxO PL comes with optics corrections for your Ricoh's... so DNG you will export to ACR/LR will have both NR and optics corrections already applied

Community Expert
February 4, 2024
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you can always get DxO PhotoLab and use it's AI/ML NR and then export DNG to be used in ACR/LR ... just like with Adobe you of course will be saddled with an extra DNG

I don't have DxO but I do have Topaz PhotoAI and it also cannot remove the noise from the Ricoh files I linked to above (https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/9930153897/ricoh-gr-iii-sample-gallery/6881829042 I used the ISO 1600 image of green flowers). The problem is the files the camera produces just like with the Pentax K3 where Photo AI and other AI noise reduction software also won't work, so this issue is not unique to Lightroom. 

JohanElzenga
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Community Expert
February 4, 2024

@Jao vdL Thanks. When I wrote my answer, the question wasn't merged with this thread yet, so I wasn't aware of the issue.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga