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February 19, 2020

P: Lightroom/Camera Raw: I can no longer create a profile for an IR camera with the new profile SDK.

  • February 19, 2020
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I have a camera converted to super color IR by Life Pixel. The method Life Pixel recommends to create a white balance profile is to export a raw file created with the IR camera as DNG. Next, run the DNG Profile Editor, open the file, click the Color Matrices tab, move the temperature slider all the way to the left, then export the profile for use in LR and ACR. This is necessary because the DNG Profile Editor lets you select a much lower color temperature than the Temperature sliders in LR/ACR.


The DNG Profile Editor has been abandoned by Adobe. It runs on Windows but does not scale on high resolution monitors. I read online that it does not run at all on Mac High Sierra or later.


The new Adobe Profile SDK, which is Adobe's replacement for the DNG Profile Editor, let's us create profiles in ACR. Unfortunately that does not work for those of us with IR cameras because the Temperature slider in ACR does not have the range of the Temperature slider in DNG Profile Editor as stated above.


Yes, the new profiles are XML and can be edited with a text editor but the temperature in DNG Profile Editor has a range of +-100 while the temperature sliders in ACR/LR are in degrees Kelvin. The problem is that the number stored in the new XML profile file appears to have a range of +-100 which as no relation to the color temperature in Kelvin or to the +-100 scale in DNG Profile Editor. So, I can edit the profile but I have no way to know what value to assign to the temperature.


So, what's an IR camera owner to do? If anyone has a solution that works with the new profile format I would love to try it. Thanks.

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    johnrellis
    johnrellis
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    January 16, 2024

    I see the same behavior with DNG Profile Editor 1.0.4 on Mac OS 14.2.1 / Macbook Pro M2 Max.

     

    It seems to run correctly on my Windows 11.

     

    @Rikk Flohr: Photography, please consider moving to Camera Raw Bugs.

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    Frigatebird
    Participant
    January 18, 2024

    Hi All, 

    Hope someone can guide me. I recently downloaded Adobe DNG Profile editor app but when run it fails to load correctly and if a file load is attempted it creates an error leaving me with the screens shown. I am just starting to play with Infrared photography hence the need for this tool.

    System: Mac OSX

    Version: Sonoma (17.2.1)

    RAW editor: Adobe camera raw and Lightroom

    Side note: the download file contains two files, one appears to be the app itself and a second file named DNG Profile Editor.app.dSYM, I am trying to run the program by double-clicking the first (.app) option.

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      keithm84390665
      Participant
      January 15, 2024

      I am having the exact same problem. Hopefully Adobe representatives can provide some guidance.

        Jilll
        Jilll
        Participant
        October 10, 2021

        Hello Support Community,
        I would like to use the DNG Profile Editor.app on my Mac which is running Big Sur. But when I launch the app the menu bars are not available in the top and I had to use Force Quit to exit the application.

        I want to create camera profiles to edit my .NEF Raw Infrared files.

        Can the app be updated so it works? Or does another application exist that offers the ability edit IR images. Below you will find a screen capture of the problem.

        Here is a link to a tutorial that I am trying to follow. Can this process outlined be replicated in Photoshop? https://kolarivision.com/post-infrared-photo-editing/custom-dng-tutorial-setting-white-balance-infrared-photography/

        I found a youtube video that explained how to create camera profiles using Photoshop. So I am aware that this can be done.

        This is one of the unique steps that I cannot find in Photoshop - "Navigate to the “Color Matrices” tab. Find White Balance Calibration and move the Temperature slider to -100."

        Thank you,

          kglad
          Community Expert
          kgladCommunity Expert
          Community Expert
          October 11, 2021

          where are you going to get a dng profile editor compatible with big sur?

          Jilll
          Jilll
          Participant
          October 12, 2021

          That is what I am asking for. 

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          FeedbackCommunityMemberAuthor
          Inspiring
          July 8, 2021

          Hi Rikk, 

          Any update in the DNG for Big Sur ?

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          FeedbackCommunityMemberAuthor
          Inspiring
          June 17, 2021
          @Rikk Hi Rikk, I wondered if you had any news about when DNG editor will be updated to work with Mac Big Sur? If not specifically, perhaps you can say whether DNG Editor will eventually be updated or has it been put on the back-burner?


          Even a rough ETA would be really helpful. One month? Six months? Ten years? Never?

          Many thanks.

          Rikk Flohr_Photography
          Community Manager
          Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
          Community Manager
          April 20, 2021

          The .dcp file you create should go into the /Users/yourusername/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles/ folder 

          If it is in that folder it should be recognized by Lightroom Desktop, Lightroom Classic and Camera Raw. 

          It will appear in the  Profiles section of the Profile Browser in Lightroom Classic. 

          Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
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          FeedbackCommunityMemberAuthor
          Inspiring
          April 20, 2021

          Sorry my answer took so long.

          I saved the profile to 

          My Mac-Users-User's name-Library-Application Support-Adobe-CameraRaw-CameraProfiles

          Is this the wrong place?

          Thank you for helping me with this problem.

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          FeedbackCommunityMemberAuthor
          Inspiring
          April 13, 2021

          I have this exact same problem: I tried unsuccessfully to download and install DNG profile editor on my Mac (running Big Sur). After trying and failing to download the program from various sites I was finally able to download a version at ftp.adobe.com only to have the security and privacy settings in System Preferences block the installation, with no apparent possibility of a workaround - there used to be a "download anyway" option but that is no more in Big Sur. I have Adobe DNG converter installed on my Mac. Is there a way of using that or of doing something in Lr or Ps as a workaround? Any tips highly appreciated.

          Rikk Flohr_Photography
          Community Manager
          Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
          Community Manager
          April 12, 2021

          " I saved the profile in the right place. "  To where did you save it?

          Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
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          FeedbackCommunityMemberAuthor
          Inspiring
          April 11, 2021

          I used the DNG profile editor on an older Mac (High Sierra) and created a new profile but Lightroom does not recognize it neither in LR 9.4 (Camera Raw 12.4) nor in LR 10.2 (Camera Raw 13.2).

          Question 1: Why would that be? I saved the profile in the right place. 

          Question 2: If there was no upgrade of the DNG profile editor since 2012/ 2014, why would Adobe upgrade it now for big sur to run?

          Question 3: Or is there another possibility to replace the DNG profile editor with?

          Thanks for any help!

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