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bryanh72432487
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August 15, 2019

P: Nikon Z7 RAW processing and White Balance

  • August 15, 2019
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A couple of problems with the camera profiles for the Nikon Z7.

1. When changing the white balance from "As Shot" in Adobe Lightroom or Camera RAW, the program creates a magenta cast on all Nikon Z7 images. This is true for all Adobe white balances and all the camera white balances. Returning the Tint slider to its original location removes almost all the magenta cast that was introduced. I believe this was an issue that was fixed for the Z6.

2. There's something wrong with the way that Adobe is reading or applying the Built-in Lens Profile. It seems to apply the corrections correctly for the Z lenses, but when using adapted F-mount lenses the profile isn't applied even though Lightroom claims that it is. If you manually apply the profile for the F-mount lens, it gets applied correctly. This also impacts stitching in panoramic photos. I can get a perfect stitch from a D850 with the same lens whereas using the same properly adjusted for the camera/lens RRS pano system and same lens with a Z7, the stitch is poor. It gets better after manually turning on the lens profile for each image in the stitch.

Running the 8/14/19 release of Lightroom Classic/Camera RAW.

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    Todd Shaner
    Todd Shaner
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    June 17, 2020
    Rikk, ACR 12.3 and Lightroom Classic 9.3 both appear to have new Nikon Z7 v2 camera profiles. Using the new v2 profiles the As Shot WB and preset WB settings appear to be fixed on my Windows 7 system. There is no more unexpected WB tint.
    Rikk Flohr_Photography
    Community Manager
    Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
    Community Manager
    June 16, 2020
    Version 12.3, an update to Camera Raw, went live on June 15, 2020 and contains a fix for this issue. Please install the update and respond back if it does not cure the issue for you. Thank you for your patience!
    Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
    joshb98216430
    joshb98216430
    Participating Frequently
    May 11, 2020
    Thank you will do.
    Todd Shaner
    Todd Shaner
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    May 11, 2020
    I agree with Brian concerning starting a new post for your Z6 request. I can't see how Adobe could implement a change to accomplish your objective, but you may get replies from users with other suggestions.
    bryanh72432487
    bryanh72432487Author
    Known Participant
    May 11, 2020
    @5734194 - I'd recommend starting  your own thread specific to the problem that you are having. That way you can get it acknowledged instead of having it disappear into the comments of an unrelated camera/problem.
    joshb98216430
    joshb98216430
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    May 11, 2020
    I understand that there are some users whose Z6 files will behave predictably with the original DCP.  They are not included in "users who do not need it". I don't have any of files that require that DCP so it frustrating when synchronizing settings between two images in LR, either through a copy of the settings or otherwise, that I have to remember to uncheck "Treatment & Profile" when in fact I would like the them to sync to a "Adobe Standard", just because of the second version of the DCP it behaves predictably, but undesirably.

    There are 800 different cameras DCPs in the Adobe Standard folder on my laptop. Z6 is one of the 1% of them have v2 DCPs

    Currently my workaround is to not select "Treatment & Profile" when copying or synchronizing in LR. A drop down menu in the Copy and Synchronize dialogs in LR that allowed you to set the Default subset of checked options like already exists in ACR would make it easier to implement this work around.
    Todd Shaner
    Todd Shaner
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    May 11, 2020
    I would ideally like it solved by removing the problematic DCP named "NIKON Z 6 Adobe Standard" for users who don't need it and substituting with the correct DCP currently named "NIKON Z 6 Adobe Standard v2"
    Regardless of the Nikon Z6 Adobe Standard WB issue some users may have edited many of their image files using it. If it were removed in a future update all of those files will revert to the new Adobe Standard v2 profile and their WB will need to be corrected. For this reason the original Nikon Z6 camera profile must be retained.


    Also it would be nice to allow presets for which develop settings to copy like currently exist when syncing files in ACR.
    The issue you are seeing when copying and pasting the Adobe Standard profile from a different model camera is not unique to the Nikon Z6. Their are numerous camera models that have v2 profiles AND for the reason I cited above the original Adobe Standard profiles must be retained. There's no workaround when Treatment & Profile is selected in the preset other than to create separate presets for the Z6 camera and other camera models that have v2 camera profiles.
    joshb98216430
    joshb98216430
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    May 11, 2020
    Ah. Sorry should not have said that.

    Though I am correct in that Nikon has made some change and it has created an issue Adobe needs to fix?
    TheDigitalDog
    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    May 11, 2020
    ” From Adobe's perspective this a frustrating issue to have because the issue seems to be created by a Nikon decision to drastically change how they were dealing with tint after these cameras been released.”

    No, there is no ”tint” in raw data; it's essentially grayscale data.
    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
    joshb98216430
    joshb98216430
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    May 11, 2020
    This is an Adobe profile issue in that Adobe Standard profiles are producing unexpected and undesirable results. From Adobe's perspective this a frustrating issue to have because the issue seems to be created by a Nikon decision to drastically change how they were dealing with tint after these cameras been released.

    I only use a Z6 so my interest in Z7 files was only insofar to understand what was happening.

    Renaming my Z6 Adobe Standard DCPs did not fix the problem.

    After learning what the problem is I would ideally like it solved by removing the problematic DCP named "NIKON Z 6 Adobe Standard" for users who don't need it and substituting with the correct DCP currently named "NIKON Z 6 Adobe Standard v2"

    Also it would be nice to allow presets for which develop settings to copy like currently exist when syncing files in ACR

    How do I go about seeing those two issues addressed? Separate posts?
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