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February 8, 2026

P: Copy & paste settings from a raw photo to a TIFF version of the same photo, the masks rotate 90 degrees clockwise.

  • February 8, 2026
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I start with an edited version (lightroom adjustments only) of a photo in lightroom. I make a copy of it and then click reset on the new copy. This copy is essentially no modifications at this point. I then edit that copy in photoshop. When I am done editing in PS, I save it. I then open that PS-modified version in lightroom and paste ALL settings I have copied from the original to this new TIFF version. I expect the changes to work but it looks wrong. I notice the REMOVED tool item masks are strange. It looks like the REMOVE masks in the version that I pasted to are 90 degrees rotated - clockwise. Basically, copy/paste of masks does not work from a raw file to a tiff version. It’s like PS messed up the orientation indicator or something and LR got confused?

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    Inspiring
    February 27, 2026

    I’ve been having this issue for the last two updates to LR Classic. I mostly notice it on tether captured raw files, when the orientation needs to be rotated in LR AFTER capture. When I save a develop preset which includes masks on an image that has been rotated 90 degrees and use this preset on a live capture session (auto import from watched folder (Fuji) or tether directly (Nikon)), the mask isn’t rotated when I rotate the image to its correct the orientation. So if I shoot a portrait-oriented image on a copy stand horizontally and I import it with the preset applied, the masks do not follow the portrait orientation after I rotate it in LRC. My workaround is to paste the masks again from a correctly oriented image and replace the originally incorrectly rotated masks.

    johnrellis
    Legend
    February 10, 2026

    Moderators, ​@Rikk Flohr_Photography, please move to Bugs. I posted a bug recipe above.

    Known Participant
    February 10, 2026

    It seems like it works perfectly except for that one indicator of when the photo is in portrait orientation. It must drive Adobe nuts that nobody can pinpoint/fix that bit of logic. The source code must be massively complex. 10 million lines - just Googled it! 😮

    johnrellis
    Legend
    February 9, 2026

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    LR has long struggled copying position-dependent settings between photos with different orientations. While Adobe has fixed many instances of the general problem over the years, many have remained unfixed since LR was first introduced. In the past, the developers have sometimes declared the behavior “as-designed” and sometimes “bug”, and the previous threads about this are a mess -- I don’t know the official position of the current team.

     

    But the problem is easy to reproduce. To reproduce on LR 15.1.1 / Mac OS 26.2 (see the attached screen recording):

     

    1. Download and open this catalog:

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bahmqen3gzogjfrqas9ee/copy-remove-bug.2026-02-08.zip?rlkey=ywibp6jglu7lklq83k48fqi70&dl=0

     

    It contains perspicuously named photos with all 8 of the possible orientations.

     

    2. Open the the photo “ab.jpg” in Develop and click on the Remove tool.  Set Tool Overlay: Always.  Observe there is a removal applied over the round window.

     

    3. In the filmstrip, select all the photos, do Sync Settings, and check just Remove.

     

    4. Observe in all the other photos that the removal appears somewhere else, not over the round window.

     

    Past threads about the general problem:

     

    Known Participant
    February 9, 2026

    Thanks. I guess it’s just another thing I won’t bother using any more. Seems to be the best way. ::)

    johnrellis
    Legend
    February 9, 2026

    A workaround is to use the Copy Settings plugin.

    Known Participant
    February 8, 2026

    So it’s the items I removed with the remove tool. The masks or outlines for those are rotated so it removes the wrongs areas.