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Cam24880745sc47
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February 8, 2026

P: Copy & paste settings from a raw photo to a TIFF version of the same photo, the masks rotate 90 degrees clockwise.

  • February 8, 2026
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I start with an edited version (lightroom adjustments only) of a photo in lightroom. I make a copy of it and then click reset on the new copy. This copy is essentially no modifications at this point. I then edit that copy in photoshop. When I am done editing in PS, I save it. I then open that PS-modified version in lightroom and paste ALL settings I have copied from the original to this new TIFF version. I expect the changes to work but it looks wrong. I notice the REMOVED tool item masks are strange. It looks like the REMOVE masks in the version that I pasted to are 90 degrees rotated - clockwise. Basically, copy/paste of masks does not work from a raw file to a tiff version. It’s like PS messed up the orientation indicator or something and LR got confused?

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    muelhause.photography
    muelhause.photography
    Participant
    May 14, 2026

    Ich benutze stets die neueste Lightroom Version, auch das neuste Update schafft hier keine Abhilfe

     

    Systeminfo:

    “Lightroom-Version: 9.3.1 arm64 [ 20260429-1653-6cd29ca ] (Apr 29 2026)
    NGL-Version: 1.43.0.5
    WF-Version: 8.3 5c9a130
    VF-Version: 1.0.164.1
    HIL-Version: 40501
    CAI-Version: c2pa-c/0.6.0 c2pa-rs/0.46.0
    PH-Version: 5.2.3
    Adobe GSDK-Version: 1.4.0.210
    CR-Version: 29.5.0.202509162212_6e7a997
    Katalog-ID: 041b1a5ce0b1446c9ca27de660fed712

    Betriebssystem: macOS
    Betriebssystemversion: macOS 26.1 (25B78)
    Anwendungsarchitektur: arm64
    Computermodell: Mac15,6 / Apple M3 Pro
    Anzahl logischer Prozessoren: 11
    Für Lightroom verfügbarer phys. Speicher: 18.432,0 MB
    Von Lightroom verwendeter phys. Speicher: 1.734,0 MB (9,4%)
    Von Lightroom verwendeter Peak-Speicher: 5.831,0 MB
    Cache-Speichergröße: 4.237,7 MB

    Interne Camera Raw-Version: 18.3 [ 2526 ]
    Maximale Anzahl Threads, die Camera Raw verwendet: 6
    Camera Raw SIMD-Optimierung: Neon
    Virtueller Speicher in Camera Raw: 418MB / 7168MB (5%)

    Anzeige: 3024x1964
    Dunkelmodus: Nein

    Informationen zum Grafikprozessor: Metal: Apple M3 Pro
    Grafikprozessordaten: geladen: Ja, unterstützt: Ja, Computing: Ja, Init.: I4_GPU4, Hardware: success, Software: success, al: Ja, dl: Nein
    Medienfähigkeit des Betriebssystems: true

    Anwendungsordner: /Applications/Adobe Lightroom CC
    Einstellungen-Ordner: /Users/lukasmuehlhause/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom CC
    Bibliotheksordner: /Users/lukasmuehlhause/Pictures/Lightroom Library.lrlibrary”
     

    Leider lässt sich der Fehler nicht bewusst reproduzieren, er tritt jedoch vermehrt auf wenn ich mit den Pfeiltasten zwischen den Fotos hin und her wechsle.

     

    Der genannte Bericht betrifft überhaupt nicht mein Problem, ich befinde mit ausschließlich in der RAW Bearbeitung mit Canon raw3 Dateien in Lightroom.

    Anshul_Saini
    Community Manager
    Anshul_SainiCommunity Manager
    Community Manager
    May 8, 2026

    Hi ​@muelhause.photography,

     

    Thanks for reporting this. First, please update to Lightroom Desktop v9.3.1 and check whether the issue still occurs there.
     

    The behavior you’re describing is definitely not expected, especially:

    • Photos rotating unexpectedly

    • Masks becoming corrupted

    • Images visually overlaying into a stack/composite
     

    If the issue still happens after updating:

    • Please share your System Info

    * Help > System Info > Copy & Paste here

    • Share a short screen recording showing the issue happening during the photo switching workflow
     

    Also, could you check whether this looks similar to the issue discussed here regarding masks rotating unexpectedly:


    If it’s similar, that will help us consolidate reports internally and investigate more effectively.
     

    Best,

    Anshul Saini

    muelhause.photography
    muelhause.photography
    Participant
    April 20, 2026

    Moin,

    Seit dem neusten Lightroom Update auf 9.3 kommt es regelmäßig zu Fehlern im Programm während meines Bildbearbeitungsprozesses.
    Meistens tritt der Fehler auf, wenn ich zwischen zwei Fotos hin und her wechsle.

    Der Fehler äußert sich indem Lightroom meine Fotos plötzlich um 90° dreht, dieser Vorgang kann nicht rückgängig gemacht werden und zerschießt die komplette Bearbeitung mit Masken.
    Des Weiteren kommt ein Fehler in dem sich ein Bild über das andere legt und daraus ein Photostack entsteht, dieser lässt sich ebenfalls nicht rückgängig machen und ich muss wieder von vorne anfangen.

    Beheben lassen sich beide Fehler in dem man die Bearbeitung zurücksetzt, das kann aber nicht Sinn und zweck eines so teuren Abos sein.

    Habt ihr diese oder ähnliche Fehler auch?

    Gruß

    (Mein Endgerät ist ein MacBook Pro 14” aus 2023 mit M3 Pro Chip und 18GB Asp.)

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    Paul Takeuchi
    Inspiring
    February 27, 2026

    I’ve been having this issue for the last two updates to LR Classic. I mostly notice it on tether captured raw files, when the orientation needs to be rotated in LR AFTER capture. When I save a develop preset which includes masks on an image that has been rotated 90 degrees and use this preset on a live capture session (auto import from watched folder (Fuji) or tether directly (Nikon)), the mask isn’t rotated when I rotate the image to its correct the orientation. So if I shoot a portrait-oriented image on a copy stand horizontally and I import it with the preset applied, the masks do not follow the portrait orientation after I rotate it in LRC. My workaround is to paste the masks again from a correctly oriented image and replace the originally incorrectly rotated masks.

    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    February 10, 2026

    Moderators, ​@Rikk Flohr_Photography, please move to Bugs. I posted a bug recipe above.

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      Cam24880745sc47Author
      Known Participant
      February 10, 2026

      It seems like it works perfectly except for that one indicator of when the photo is in portrait orientation. It must drive Adobe nuts that nobody can pinpoint/fix that bit of logic. The source code must be massively complex. 10 million lines - just Googled it! 😮

      johnrellis
      johnrellis
      Legend
      February 9, 2026

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      LR has long struggled copying position-dependent settings between photos with different orientations. While Adobe has fixed many instances of the general problem over the years, many have remained unfixed since LR was first introduced. In the past, the developers have sometimes declared the behavior “as-designed” and sometimes “bug”, and the previous threads about this are a mess -- I don’t know the official position of the current team.

       

      But the problem is easy to reproduce. To reproduce on LR 15.1.1 / Mac OS 26.2 (see the attached screen recording):

       

      1. Download and open this catalog:

      https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bahmqen3gzogjfrqas9ee/copy-remove-bug.2026-02-08.zip?rlkey=ywibp6jglu7lklq83k48fqi70&dl=0

       

      It contains perspicuously named photos with all 8 of the possible orientations.

       

      2. Open the the photo “ab.jpg” in Develop and click on the Remove tool.  Set Tool Overlay: Always.  Observe there is a removal applied over the round window.

       

      3. In the filmstrip, select all the photos, do Sync Settings, and check just Remove.

       

      4. Observe in all the other photos that the removal appears somewhere else, not over the round window.

       

      Past threads about the general problem:

       

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        Cam24880745sc47Author
        Known Participant
        February 9, 2026

        Thanks. I guess it’s just another thing I won’t bother using any more. Seems to be the best way. ::)

        johnrellis
        johnrellis
        Legend
        February 9, 2026

        A workaround is to use the Copy Settings plugin.

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          Cam24880745sc47Author
          Known Participant
          February 8, 2026

          So it’s the items I removed with the remove tool. The masks or outlines for those are rotated so it removes the wrongs areas.

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