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Hi,

after the latest update to v15 of LR for Windows, the behaviour of the cropping tool changed. It's really annoying:

It is very difficult to create a selection in portrait format with the mouse in this case. Simply dragging diagonally downwards is no longer sufficient – see my screen video here:

https://youtu.be/NYfgYOV3IXE

Any idea to get back the old behaviour – not by using the previous version of LR 😉

Thanks!

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yamato713108855

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There is a bug where the aspect ratio changes when using the Crop tool to select an area by dragging on the image.
The Crop tool requires an urgent fix.

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johnrellis

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Moderators, @Sameer K, please merge with the existing bug report:

https://community.adobe.com/bug-reports-674/p-crop-orientation-is-reversed-when-drawing-a-new-crop-on-portrait-images-983920?postid=7778743

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johnrellis

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Adobe has acknowledged this bug, introduced in LR 15.0 on Windows and LR 13.0 on Mac:

https://community.adobe.com/bug-reports-674/p-crop-orientation-is-reversed-when-drawing-a-new-crop-on-portrait-images-983920?postid=7778743#post7778743

To draw a portrait crop on a portrait photo, drag the mouse above the 45-degree diagonal rather than below. See the linked post for details if that’s not clear.

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Jao vdL

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Seems to work just fine for me. The orientation flips if you drag the corner halfway down or so. Screen recording below shows how this works.

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yamato713108855

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I’m unable to attach an image, but...
You shouldn't be dragging from the corners.
Dragging from the corners takes too much time if you want to perform a significant crop.
Instead, start the crop by clicking and dragging from near the center of the image.
Even though I am dragging, the corners do not follow the mouse cursor.
It is particularly difficult to crop landscape-oriented photos.

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Jao vdL

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Realized I was cropping a horizontal photo just now and you are right, when cropping from the middle instead of from the corners like I almost always do (I rarely crop that extreme that cropping from the middle makes any sense) and you are cropping a vertical image, it will not go horizontal when dragging the crop. That is indeed annoying! It crops perfectly fine from the corners. Takes maybe a whole second longer but I can see how that gets annoying if you’re cropping to a tiny area in the middle.

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Jim Wilde

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Have you checked to make sure that the aspect ratio is unlocked when trying to drag to a different aspect using the mouse?

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yamato713108855

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I want to crop a vertical photo into a horizontal orientation, while maintaining the original aspect ratio.

Cropping a horizontal photo into a vertical orientation is easy to do.
However, it seems that a bug is imposing a restriction when trying to crop a vertical photo into a horizontal orientation.
In Camera Raw, this cropping can be done without any issues.

This is a bug in Lightroom Classic.

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Jim Wilde

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I don’t see a problem even when the aspect ratio is locked, though both changes are a little bit fiddly when using only the mouse (I have always used the X key in those circumstances). I’m certainly not seeing a bug.

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yamato713108855

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When cropping a landscape-oriented photo to a portrait orientation, you can easily do so by dragging with your mouse.
However, you cannot crop a portrait-oriented photo to a landscape orientation using the mouse in the same way.

In Camera RAW, you can perform both types of cropping using the mouse.

Pressing the "X" key allows you to toggle between portrait and landscape orientations.

＊To start cropping, begin dragging from near the center of the image.

Lightroom Classic 15.6 , CameraRAW18.7 , Win11

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yamato713108855

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Depending on how you use the crop tool, the aspect ratio may differ from that of the original image.

A: If I drag the guides of the Crop tool.
B: If, with the Crop tool active, I drag directly on the image—without using the guides—to define the crop area.

The resulting aspect ratio differs between methods A and B.
Please investigate this and provide a fix.

Original resolution 6742 x 4480px
A：4480 x 2987px
B：4480 x 2983px

Lightroom Classic 15.6 , CameraRAW18.7 , Win11

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Dolliteon

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Yes Please, this is a problem for a while now! We need a sollution….

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johnrellis

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@Dolliteon We need a solution

While waiting for Adobe, see the last paragraph of this post for a workaround:

https://community.adobe.com/bug-reports-674/p-crop-orientation-is-reversed-when-drawing-a-new-crop-on-portrait-images-983920?postid=7778743#post7778743

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Dolliteon

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Thank you for your explanation. I was indeed already doing it this way.

Over the past year, I've cropped photos of 30 groups of 250 students, with 5 photos per student. I've tried to get used to this method, but I just can't seem to retrain myself, especially because I also work with photos in landscape orientation.

What I don't really understand is when I can expect a response from Adobe. I created a post last year, but it was closed. I created another one a few weeks ago, and that was closed too. I've also tried reporting the issue as a bug and uploaded several videos demonstrating the problem. Unfortunately, I still haven't received any response.

I've been working with this frustration for an entire year now. I've even tried Evoto and Aftershoot to see if they might offer a better workflow.

But Lightroom is where I live and work. I simply can't do without it...

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