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nico.kaiser
nico.kaiser
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August 19, 2015

P: Develop module doesn't detect external changes to original file

  • August 19, 2015
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When i choose "edit original" in Photoshop then the LR develop module doesn't reload the image after i saved the tif in Photoshop. But the library module DOES refresh. So i end up with different previews in library and develop. Only solution is to restart LR. After the restart i can see the current preview in develop module too.

Steps to reproduce:
- Open your raw file (i use dng) in LR.
- Choose "edit in Adope Photoshop". Make some changes and save. Lightroom will automatically import the created tif file. Switch to develop module in LR
- Now make another change in PS and save.
- LR should detect that change to the tif file and refresh the preview. Maybe you need to switch to the next image and back to have LR refresh the image. But it should work.
- Now close LR and PS.
- Start LR again.
- Select the tif file again, switch to develop module and choose "edit original" in Photoshop.
- Make changes in PS and save.
- LR will not refresh the preview in the develop module! But it will refresh the library module. You will now see different versions of your file in develop and library until you restart LR.

tested with Lightroom: CC 2015.1.1 and PS CC 2015.0.1 on Windows on two different machines.

This is a real pain for me since i often switch between PS and LR!

This worked flawlessly before LR CC.

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    redchris
    Participant
    November 18, 2016
    Problem continues with lightroom 2015.7 ; camera raw 9.7
    help!
    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    July 13, 2016
    Unfortunately, turning off Automatically Write Changes doesn't fix the symptoms I experience, reported in this post earlier in the thread: https://feedback.photoshop.com/photos...
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    agiledogsPhotography
    Known Participant
    July 10, 2016
    Sorry its under the metadata handling section where this setting is located.

    Catalog settings, metadata tab option to automatically. write changes to xmp file.

    If this is checked when the tiff file is resaved from external editing the changes made will NOT be picked up immediately by LR. Generally restarting LR is required to see those changes.

    Unchecking this option allows the user to see the changes immediately.
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    agiledogsPhotography
    Known Participant
    July 10, 2016
    The latest and greatest.

    Lightroom version: CC 2015.6 [ 1078672 ]License: Creative Cloud
    Operating system: Windows 10
    Version: 10.0
    Application architecture: x64
    System architecture: x64
    Logical processor count: 8
    Processor speed: 2.2 GHz
    Built-in memory: 12241.7 MB
    Real memory available to Lightroom: 12241.7 MB
    Real memory used by Lightroom: 1983.9 MB (16.2%)
    Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 4801.8 MB
    Memory cache size: 3195.5 MB
    Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 8
    Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX
    System DPI setting: 96 DPI
    Desktop composition enabled: Yes
    Displays: 1) 1920x1080
    Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: No, External touch: No, External pen: No, Keyboard: No

    Graphics Processor Info: 
    GeForce GTX 660M/PCIe/SSE2

    Check OpenGL support: Passed
    Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
    Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 353.54
    Renderer: GeForce GTX 660M/PCIe/SSE2
    LanguageVersion: 3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler


    Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom
    Library Path: C:\Users\Clark\Pictures\2016\2016.lrcat
    Settings Folder: C:\Users\Clark\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom

    Installed Plugins: 
    1) Canon Tether Plugin
    2) Export to Photomatix Pro
    3) Facebook
    4) Flickr
    5) jf SmugMug
    6) Leica Tether Plugin
    7) Nikon Tether Plugin
    😎 SmugMug

    Config.lua flags: None

    Adapter #1: Vendor : 10de
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    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    July 10, 2016
    Which exact version of LR are you running?  (Do Help > System Info.)
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    agiledogsPhotography
    Known Participant
    July 10, 2016
    After a long bit of study and research I found the real solution to this problem. In the catalog settings there is an option to automatically write out changes in the xmp files. If this is checked the changes are not picked up by LR until restarted. I had noticed there was an occasional message about not completing writing out the xmp file and it would complete the next time LR was restarted.

     

    Unchecking this option allows the changes to be picked up immediately. Hope this helps someone else having similar problems.

     

    Under catalog settings in the file handling tab you will see this option. If it is checked, try unchecking it and see if this allows your edits to be picked up when closing third-party applications work from LR.

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    manuelrphoto
    Participant
    April 22, 2016
    LR 2015.5 Edited photo in PS doesn't refresh in Develop module, changes only show up in Library module.

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    FeedbackCommunityMember
    Inspiring
    December 15, 2015
    Not fixed - 6.3 + Win10.

    My workflow is to externally edit a TIF copy in Portrait Pro Studio. LR correctly displays the new copies created in this way, but the preview refuses to display the actual edited photo - so if I've done skin edits in PPS and saved them to the TIF, LR does not show these edits at all. Also, if I copy settings from another photo and paste them onto the problematic copies, the pasted settings aren't displayed.

    This goes beyond just the display of previews - I've checked export and when I export from LR to JPG the skin edits are totally absent.

    This has totally broken my workflow and I'm stuck on critical jobs without the ability to fix skin properly.

    Lightroom version: CC 2015.3 [ 1052427 ]
    License: Creative Cloud
    Operating system: Windows 10
    Version: 10.0
    Application architecture: x64
    System architecture: x64
    nico.kaiser
    nico.kaiserAuthor
    Known Participant
    November 27, 2015
    Ok. Seems there is a new issue. Now when a file which was edited externally is being imported back there a development settings automatically applied to it?! It seems like some development settings from a previous file/session are stored and applied to the newly imported tiff?!
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    agiledogsPhotography
    Known Participant
    November 20, 2015
    Oh and occasionally when closing LR to pick up changes I get a message about still writing to xmp files which of course should not be occurring when working with tiff files as xmp files are specific to RAW files. The original shots for my images are RAW. I edit in LR then export to PS cc and save back to LR as a PSD. from here I export into filmpack 5 as a tiff and save once changes are complete. I go back to lightroom and the filmpack changes are not visible in LR as they had been in previous versions. Between each export I will often make more minor adjustments in LR to the PSD or tiff file. On occasion if I wait for say an hour, the changes will magically be picked up. not always and in some case the film strip show the changes but not the image view and when clicking on the film strip, the film strip will revert back to the un modified version of the image.
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