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nico.kaiser
nico.kaiser
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August 19, 2015

P: Develop module doesn't detect external changes to original file

  • August 19, 2015
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When i choose "edit original" in Photoshop then the LR develop module doesn't reload the image after i saved the tif in Photoshop. But the library module DOES refresh. So i end up with different previews in library and develop. Only solution is to restart LR. After the restart i can see the current preview in develop module too.

Steps to reproduce:
- Open your raw file (i use dng) in LR.
- Choose "edit in Adope Photoshop". Make some changes and save. Lightroom will automatically import the created tif file. Switch to develop module in LR
- Now make another change in PS and save.
- LR should detect that change to the tif file and refresh the preview. Maybe you need to switch to the next image and back to have LR refresh the image. But it should work.
- Now close LR and PS.
- Start LR again.
- Select the tif file again, switch to develop module and choose "edit original" in Photoshop.
- Make changes in PS and save.
- LR will not refresh the preview in the develop module! But it will refresh the library module. You will now see different versions of your file in develop and library until you restart LR.

tested with Lightroom: CC 2015.1.1 and PS CC 2015.0.1 on Windows on two different machines.

This is a real pain for me since i often switch between PS and LR!

This worked flawlessly before LR CC.

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    FeedbackCommunityMember
    Inspiring
    November 10, 2015


    A photo is brought into LR but not edited. Then sent over to PS for spot removal (cuz it's so slow in LR) on the original photo. Saved as TIF. When return to LR, the edits are seen as expected in the Library. However, none of the PS edits are found in Develop. I have to sign out and back into LR in order for the edits to be seen in the Develop module.
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    FeedbackCommunityMember
    Inspiring
    November 5, 2015


    Hi there,

    I've been searching without succes on Google moreover to find a solution for the following nasty problem:

    In Lightroom CC2015 the devellop module shows the wrong preview file once a PSD-File is reopend from Lightroom to make further changes. The preview only updates in library module, but as soon as I get back to the develop module it jumps back to the elder version of the PSD-preview.

    I tried to render new previews, but that didn't work. The only way to get the correct preview is deleting the file preview and reimport the file/synchronize the folder or just to close Lightroom and start again. Only then the correct preview is shown.

    Does anyone hase this problem to and has a solution?

    Thanks!
    S
    SteenHK63
    Known Participant
    October 28, 2015
    I am so tired of this and have started the process of Switching to Capture one, which has much greater tools for grading, masking, sharpening, noise reduction etc. and most importantly works in every aspect and then it is like a race horse compared to Lightroom. In my view Lightroom has turned in to a catastrophy due for retirement.
    Carlos_Oliveras
    Carlos_Oliveras
    Known Participant
    October 27, 2015
    This issue of saving in PS and not seeing the changes in LR has always existed at some level for me - it's one of those hundred things that for some reason, never get totally fixed in Lightroom. But it was relatively rare and at least, you could always force it to update by pressing left/right keys or switching between modules.

    But since LR CC, far for being fixed for good, this issue has got critically worse - updating fails most of the time in the develop module and worse still, now there seems to be no workaround other than closing/restarting LR. Extremely annoying for anyone using the LR-PS-LR workflow. It's true that sometimes, if you wait, the image updates after some seconds. But for me, many times it won't update even after waiting for 1 minute (maybe it eventually updates but it takes extremely long).

    I'm using LR 2015.2.1 on Windows 8.1. Please, fix this...
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    FeedbackCommunityMember
    Inspiring
    October 17, 2015


    Dear all
    I have a proplem: lately the develop module in LR CC does not show the refreshed edits I have done in PS CC. If I switch to the library, it refreshes and I see the edits done in PS, if I switch back to the develop module I see only the old version of the file. This is very unnerving, as I cannot add edits in LR if I do not see the newest version of the image. Files coming back from PS are .tif 16 bit

    I work with Windows 7 professional 64bit, LR and PS CC, newest versions, I have 24 GB RAM

    Do you have an idea how I can solve this problem? If I close LR and reopen it, the newest image is shown in the develop module. But I really don't want to use that "workaround" all the time. It also is not a constant thing, sometimes LR refreshes the image in the develop module, but every so often, and very often, it doesn't.

    below is one image of today. The library module shows the edits around the eyes, the develop module shows the old version with the bags around the eyes.

    Many thanks and best regards
    Gabriella

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    Lumigraphics
    Legend
    October 14, 2015
    Bridge has a similar problem of not showing changes to a file (in my case, replacing a JPEG with another created by Save for Web from a PSD) until the cache updates. I suspect that caching issues might be to blame. Unfortunately there is not a way in LR to delete a file's cache like there is in Bridge.
    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    October 14, 2015
    I've noticed that if I open the image in Develop, I may have to wait 10 to 15 seconds sometimes for the updated image to appear. But it nearly always does if I just wait. (There's no "Loading" indicator or other indication it's computing.)

    I think what might be going on in your case and in mine is that when you first display an image, LR kicks off a background thread to update the image, and you just have to wait for that to complete. Using the arrow keys to move to another image(s) and back isn't really affecting the outcome -- it's just something that we've been doing while waiting for the updated image to appear.
    nico.kaiser
    nico.kaiserAuthor
    Known Participant
    October 14, 2015
    and another update...

    some users reported that there is a workaround like this: when the develop preview doesn't update then use the right arrow to switch to the next image and then back to your image. Unfortunately this doesn't work for me.

    BUT: if i switch to let's say the 5th image right of my image and use the left arrow key 5 times to get back to my image then the preview updates. So instead of closing and re-opening LR just switch between images until LR "thinks" it needs to update the preview...
    nico.kaiser
    nico.kaiserAuthor
    Known Participant
    October 14, 2015
    just for the records:

    i have this problem on two windows machines. One workstation with windows 10 and a Dell XPS 15 laptop with windows 10. Both have gone through various lightroom updates in the past.

    I don't see this bug on a Macbook Pro from late 2012 which has got a fresh Lightroom install some weeks ago.

    All LR installs have been updated to the latest version.
    nico.kaiser
    nico.kaiserAuthor
    Known Participant
    October 14, 2015
    Great to hear that! This bugs me since june 😞
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