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Alexey Danilchenko
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October 16, 2023

P: Histogram behavior in out of range areas

  • October 16, 2023
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Lightroom Classic 13.0, macOS Ventura 13.6


Lightroom 13 introduced new histogram style purportedly to accomodate HDR but the new style makes it difficult to actually use histogram to determine areas in gistogram free of data and settong white/black levels correctly.

This all being discussed to death in this post https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-reinstate-version-12-histogram/idi-p/14157437 which was moved to ideas preseumably because it asks to reinstate v12 histogram. It is also being discussed here https://www.alex-kunz.com/new-features-in-lightroom-classic-13/ . 

I now rephrase the request for bugfix - fix the new histogram in v13 to make it show gaps in highlights and blacks clearly (similarly to the way v12 one did where it can be done with ease).

The demonstration of the differences between old style and new style where 1-1.5 stop free part of histogram in highlights can clearly be seen in v12:

 

and not so clearly in v13

 

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    Rikk Flohr_Photography
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    Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
    Community Manager
    December 14, 2023

    Greetings all,

     

    Updates for the Adobe Photography Products have been released.  The December 2023 updates contain an update for this issue. 

    If you do not see the update in your Creative Cloud Application, you can refresh it by hitting [Ctrl/Cmd]+[Alt/Opt]+[ R ].

    Note: It may take up to 24 hours for your update to be available in your Creative Cloud app.

     

    Thank you for your patience.

    Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
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      SteveBracken
      Known Participant
      October 28, 2023

      That is the clearest statement of the problem I have seen so far. If there are no pixels close to pure white or pure black then a coloured line running along the bottom of the histogram makes it hard to see what is happening. At least give us a choice of old or new style.

        Califdan2
        Califdan2
        Inspiring
        October 27, 2023

        Where there are 0 pixels of any particular color the line is shown on the Histogram.  This results in a white/gray line extendiing along the bottom of the histogram from where there is actual data all the way to the left and right edges of the chart which, in turn, makes it difficult to determine exactly where the white and black point are.   Instead change the Y axis to represent 1 at its lower end rather than 0. 

         

        This problem occurs in LR, LrC, and ACR

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          trevor98712893
          Known Participant
          October 17, 2023

          The new histogram in 13.0 makes precision work more difficult.

          In the attached image, the image does not have any content to the right of the arrow, yet the histogram implies there might be content in that range. This makes precision work far more difficult when working on the outter edges.

          This behavior also makes HDR editing and the histogram rather frustrating.

           

            Rikk Flohr_Photography
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            Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
            Community Manager
            October 16, 2023

            @C.Cella  That is the bug to which this is cross-referenced. 

            Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
              C.Cella
              C.Cella
              Inspiring
              October 16, 2023

              @Rikk Flohr: Photography this bug I believe is the same bug I filed internally as: LRD-4212718

               

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                Alexey DanilchenkoAutor
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                October 16, 2023

                @DdeGannesthanks, so I updated Lightroom Classic to 13.0.1 andf absolutely zero changes to histogram in Develop module. Nothing was fixed in terms of usability.

                  DdeGannes
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                  DdeGannesCommunity Expert
                  Community Expert
                  October 16, 2023

                  @Alexey Danilchenko , see the screen capture for a procedure that has been working for several mac users.

                   

                  Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.0.1, PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
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                    Alexey DanilchenkoAutor
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                    October 16, 2023

                    > There has been an update to LrC 13.0.1 which provides some bug fixes one relates to the histogram. See the screen capture for more info.

                     

                    Cannot test it as I am on macOS and 13.0.1 does not work for me.

                      Rikk Flohr_Photography
                      Community Manager
                      Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
                      Community Manager
                      October 16, 2023

                      Updating status with the existing bug number. 

                      Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
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