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April 5, 2020

P: Importing Files into a folder with the file system date rather than metadata date?

  • April 5, 2020
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I had an issue with lots of repeated files and in order to fix it I wrote my own script to calculate a hash on all files and then check which are the same. This worked very well and with it I found that I have the same exact file imported into different folders...

In my setup all the files enter those folders through an import on Lightroom.

When I digged further I found out that:

1) the files have the same MD5 hash
2) they are exactly the same
3) they have the same EXIF data and it matches reality (CREATED DATE)
4) They have a different date on the filesystem
5) The file was imported to the date the file has on the filesystem

I am very surprised with this. When we move files around the file date changes but it seems that Lightroom is importing based on that and not on the METADATA inside the file.

This is happening for .JPG 

Is this normal behaviour?

I have the latest release of LR Classic 9.2

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Rick Spaulding -
Legend
October 20, 2020

Greetings,

 

Updates for the Adobe Photography Products were released on 10.20.2020 that include fixes for these issues. Please install the most recent update and confirm that your issue is now fixed. Please let us know if you encounter any issues.

 

Thank you for your patience.

Inspiring
August 13, 2020
I have just encountered the same issue.  For years photos have imported by capture date.  I recently created a new catalogue of 2019 photos and they have sorted themselves pretty much at random: a "capture date" of 2019-10-10, say, will have 10 or more capture dates spanning dates both before and after the real date.  I reimported to a new catalogue and drive with the same result -- just different wrong capture dates.   

I have used Lightroom since the original beta and never had this issue.

Barrie


Participant
August 12, 2020
I tried another batch- using the same steps as above:
1.  Select all images in original folder in Lightroom Catalog and save metadata to file.
2.  Remove folder from catalog.
3.  Import and move same images to new folder on same external hard drive by YEAR/YEAR-MONTH-DATE  with 'do not import suspected duplicates' checked.

There were 5065 images in the original folder.  4427 were properly imported by date.  638 were imported to the 'Metadata Date' which was the date on which I saved the metadata (for all 5065 images) to file.  (Ctrl + S).  Those 638 images no longer have original date time created or date time digitized in the metadata information.   Many of those 638 images were also images that had been taken with an iphone or shared with me via text or google photos from someone else's phone.  There are so many variables I can't even begin to guess what went wrong!  I think apple photos to lightroom mobile to lightroom cc is part of the mess.  I need to break out imports by original source and maybe I can relate when exactly this is happening.



johnrellis
Legend
August 9, 2020
Laura, do any of the imported photos get placed in the correct dated folder?  Or are they all getting misplaced?  Regardless, can you post a screenshot of the entire right column of the Import window when this  misbehavior occurs?

(There are numerous outstanding issues with LR's date handling, and it's proved difficult to get reproducible cases to wrap up with a bow to hand to development.) 
Participant
August 9, 2020
Sorry I did not describe what I was doing when incorrect date folder problem happens.  I am importing and moving images in a 2020/2020-08-09 format from one folder on my external hard drive to another folder on that same external hard drive (with do not import suspected duplicates checked) in order to reorganize my images by date and to screen for duplicates. 

I follow these steps:

1.  Select all images in original folder in Lightroom Catalog and save metadata to file.
2.  Remove folder from catalog.
3.  Import and move same images to new folder on same external hard drive by YEAR/YEAR-MONTH-DATE  with 'do not import suspected duplicates' checked.

Thank you so much!
Laura

Participant
August 9, 2020
I am also having a problem with Lightroom Classic creating dated folders with the wrong date.  I found that LR is using the IPTC metadata date instead of the EXIF Date Time Original. 

When I view a jpg image's 'Creation Date' through Finder/Preview/Tools/Inspector it show the (incorrect/modified) IPTC metadata also.  But when I look at the EXIF data displayed with the image in Lightroom Classic it displays the proper EXIF Date Time Original -- Lightroom's Import process is just not using it. 

In the second example, when I look at the dng version of the image in preview, the creation date is correct but Lightroom Classic is still using the incorrect IPTC Metadata Date.  VERY FRUSTRATING!  (I have also posted this on forum.  Not clear where else to report what appears to be a widespread problem.)

Example One- JPG:


Example two- DNG:


johnrellis
Legend
April 8, 2020
Paulo sent me some example files, one of which got imported into the wrong dated folder. As he had already determined, the EXIF metadata of the two files was identical, both with the same EXIF:DateTimeOriginal field, and both imported the correct dated folder in my LR 9.2.

You've said you now use Mac Image Capture to import from the iPhone to your disk and then from the disk into LR. Is it possible that these affected photos were imported via USB cable?  If not, then your symptoms don't seem to match previously reported bugs.
Just Shoot Me
Legend
April 6, 2020
And all of these files are from your iPhone? If that is true then it is a problem with the phone placing the wrong date, or the right date, in the wrong place.
papereirAuthor
Participating Frequently
April 6, 2020
I just did a check and I have 7886 files where the folder they were placed doesn't match the metadata of the file. It happens for JPG and HEIC files but never for CR2 files...
papereirAuthor
Participating Frequently
April 6, 2020
I am not worried with the duplicates, I can handle that. I am worried than LR importing them into wrong folders. Right folder being the one with the appropriate date.