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johnrellis
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July 30, 2011

P: Inconsistent dates for files missing date/time metadata

  • July 30, 2011
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If an image or video is missing metadata date/time fields, then LR 3.4.1 uses the file's date-modified for filtering, sorting, and pre-populating the Metadata > Edit Capture Time dialog, but it uses the file's date-created to display in the grid view. It should use date-modified consistently for all of those. (When Windows copies or restores a file, the date-modified is preserved, but date-created is usually set to "now".)

This problem trips up people managing scanned images and videos, since scanners typically don't add any metadata and LR doesn't understand much video metadata.

See these threads for examples and details:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/37343...

http://forums.adobe.com/message/38293...

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dorin_nicolaescu
Inspiring
August 8, 2012
By the way, try the old trick that is mentioned here up the thread.

Select all the files that you think are not correctly sorted, invoke the "Edit Capture Time" command and without changing anything clikc the "Change All" button.
dorin_nicolaescu
Inspiring
August 8, 2012
Paolo, the fact that the video has some metadata (be it correct or not) does not mean that Lightroom necessarily makes use of it in a way or another.

I think that the problem is not in sorting per se, but in the fact that Lightroom does not correctly handling the capture date/time metadata and video metadata in general (which is a different topic). Lack of metadata or misinterpreting, in this context, is the same thing.

Take a look at all the merges above: many of them gave exactly the same symptoms — there's some capture date/time in the Metadata panel, but the capture order is incorrect.
Participating Frequently
August 8, 2012
Waiting for Dorin to split back my thread which has nothing to share with this discussion, here is the proof that both the correctly sorted movies and the wrongly ones have good date/time attributes set.

Wrong one:
File Modification Date/Time     : 2012:08:05 21:08:40+02:00

Track Create Date : 2012:08:05 21:09:04
Track Modify Date : 2012:08:05 21:09:04
Media Create Date : 2012:08:05 21:09:04
Media Modify Date : 2012:08:05 21:09:04
Modify Date : 2012:08:05 21:08:32
Date/Time Original : 2012:08:05 21:08:32
Create Date : 2012:08:05 21:08:32


Correct one:
File Modification Date/Time     : 2012:08:05 19:20:00+02:00

Track Create Date : 2012:08:05 19:20:24
Track Modify Date : 2012:08:05 19:20:24
Media Create Date : 2012:08:05 19:20:24
Media Modify Date : 2012:08:05 19:20:24
Modify Date : 2012:08:05 19:19:49
Date/Time Original : 2012:08:05 19:19:49
Create Date : 2012:08:05 19:19:49


Lightroom thinks that the former comes before than the latter!
Participating Frequently
August 8, 2012
I have a certain number of photos and movies I took with a Fuji X10.

As you can see from the screenshot below (photos removed), I have a group of nine time-contiguous movies from 20:32 to 21:08 which are placed before the rest of movies/photos which start at 19:20.

It seems that, despite being everything correct on the metadata side, those 9 movies have being ingested as if they were shot two hours earlier, so 18:32 to 19:08.

Note that I didn't change any date/time setting on the camera nor in Lightroom for none of the movies/photos.
They have been imported all together.

No need to add that the current sort order is "Sort: Capture Time".
Checking with exiftool, all the date/tim metadata is OK.



Inspiring
July 21, 2012
I could fix the problem bei editing the time the video was taken in LR4 and then simply apply the unchanged date/time of the videofile. Afterwards LR sorted things correctly.
Known Participant
May 4, 2012
I have the same problme as both Miroslaw & LondonYank.
I am struggling with this because after importing ~37k files from PSE I am LOST. The new Vids i create are off also.
Participating Frequently
April 24, 2012
I created a Lightroom Catalog from Photoshop Elements Catalog. I have noticed that sort of movie files and some other files in Lightroom Catalog by date and time becomes very erratic. Lightroom reads date and time of when the movie was taken correctly and displays it correctly, but it displays these files in a catalog in very unexpected places and out of order with other file types. For example it may put movies from last month with pictures taken several years ago. This happens even though my sort order in catalog specifies by time picture was taken.

Participant
April 16, 2012
I am looking at a fresh import of shots I took yesterday with a Canon 7D. I did a straight import of files that contained both photos and video. I have not altered timestamps either during or after import, to the best of my knowledge.

When I view them in Grid view in Lightroom 4, sorted by Capture Time, then some of the videos show up in odd places. As in, many of the videos appear out of sequence, alongside pictures from 1 hour before, even though according to Lightroom 4 the capture time is correct. So you will see a video from 11:56AM right next to a photo from 10:56AM. Capture times are displayed correctly but the video is shown out of sequence in the initial view. You can see this in the screenshot I have attached.


UPDATE: Looking again, I noticed that all of my displayed Capture Times were 1 hour off as I had not changed my camera's clock to daylight savings time. I made a capture time adjustment to all files - photos and video - and now the videos display in their expected position within the photo timeline. HOWEVER, the issue still stands, as initially imported. I think there is still a bug with some part of the import or grid sorting in Lightroom 4 as evidenced by the behaviour I observed on the initial import.

Participating Frequently
February 28, 2012
I have a similar problem related to video time stamping, as I documented at http://forums.adobe.com/message/42337... .
johnrellis
johnrellis작성자
Legend
January 11, 2012
This problem still exists in LR 4 beta.