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P: Keyboard shortcuts for rotate left and right changed incorrectly

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October 20, 2017
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[Update: The shortcuts for rotate left and right were incorrectly changed in German, Spanish, French, Italian, and Swedish. See here for details:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-classic-cc-keyboard-shortcuts-for-r...
- John Ellis]

Hi Adboe,

I like working with LR and it's the software product I use the most. It's a good piece of software and I never had any troubles working with it and I always was a happy user. (German keyboard layout on a Mac)

But in the new LR version the keyboard shortcuts to rotate images have been changed, unfortunately to the worse. From (Command+) and (Command+.) to (Command+<) &
(Command+#). You did fix something that was not broken.

Here's what these new shortcuts do:
1) They only work for me when an image I have fully zoomed into an image.
2) The shortcut to rotate an image clockwise (Command+#) is the same as the one to zoom into an image (Seriously?! Did no one double check that before the release?).
3) In the previous LR version you could rotate images with the shortcuts in both directions without having to use two hands on the keyboard because the keys for both directions were right next to each other (, & .). Now the keys used for this are on the opposite ends of the keyboard (at least mine, which has a German layout).

I really hope you come up with an update to bring back the old shortcuts to rotate images.

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FeedbackCommunityMemberAuthor

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Incredible, what a confusion for a both, PS and Lightroom user.
Most shortcust are different. For cutting an image you use "c" in PS, but "r" in LR. The simplest, cmd + for maginfying does not work in lightroom at all! But cmd - does work same in PS and LR.
ADOBE urgendly has to fix this Chaos!
LR + PS on Mac, OS 10.12.1 German Version.

johnrellis

Legend

You can verify the actual current keyboard shortcuts for a language by looking at the TranslatedStrings_lr_?_?.txt files: https://www.lightroomqueen.com/custom-keyboard-shortcuts/

By examining TranslatedStrings_Lr_de_DE.txt in LR 7.0.1, you can see that Cmd+# is assigned both to Rotate Right and Zoom In, and the only assignment to Library Zoom In is Cmd+#. (On Windows, "Cmd" maps to "Ctrl".)

$ grep -i 'Library/.*Cmd+#' TranslatedStrings_Lr_de_DE.txt 
"$$$/AgLibrary/Menu/Photo/RotateRight/Key=Cmd+#"
"$$$/AgLibrary/Menu/View/ZoomIn/Key=Cmd+#"

$ grep 'Library/.*/ZoomIn/Key' TranslatedStrings_Lr_de_DE.txt 
"$$$/AgLibrary/Menu/View/ZoomIn/Key=Cmd+#"

There is no assignment to Cmd+=

$ grep 'Key=Cmd+=' TranslatedStrings_Lr_de_DE.txt 
$

You can verify this from the drop-down menus in LR:

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As you've discovered, the Help does not match the actual current shortcuts.

If you're seeing something else in the menus or in TranslatedStrings_Lr_de_DE.txt, please post screenshots.

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tklbln

Participating Frequently

No, that is not true: Ctrl+# works to turn around the picture, as it is described in the online help.

Ctrl+# is no longer assigned to zooming, it is assigned to rotating now. The new shortcut for zooming is Ctrl+=.

And the problem is not the assignment of two functions two the same shortcut. There are two shortcuts now.

The problem is, that you cannot enter Ctrl+= on a German keyboard.

johnrellis

Legend

As described in the X X's original topic, he was looking at the keyboard assignments documented in the Help, which are incorrect. (See screenshot below.)

The actual German assignments are as described previously in this topic: Ctrl+- is assigned to Zoom Out, and Ctrl+# is assigned to both Rotate Right and Zoom In.

See this post for a workaround:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-classic-cc-keyboard-shortcuts-for-r...

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tklbln

Participating Frequently

With the introduction of Lightroom classic several shortcuts have changed to the worse.
The new shortcuts for zooming are Ctrl+- and Ctrl+=

It is not possible to enter Ctrl+= on a regular German keyboard: The "="-key is a key shared with the zero: if you want to write "=", thus you have to hold shift while pressing the zero-key.

Therefore in Lightroom Classic I can only enter Ctrl+0 or Ctrl+shift0. Both are not equal to Ctrl+=, therefore nobody with a German keyboard can zoom via shortcuts anymore.
Moreover, I can also not program my Wacom tablet to do this, since I have the same problem when trying to enter this key combination there.

Result: my whole workflow is broken up now. Everytime I want to zoom, I have to take my pen, go to the navigator, choose... It takes hours more.

johnrellis

Legend

There are four separable issues:

1. The German keyboard shortcuts have changed for Rotate Left, Rotate Right, Auto Tone, Create Virtual Copy, perhaps others. Adobe did this intentionally?

2. The shortcut for Rotate Right (Cmd/Ctrl + #) is also assigned to Zoom In. This certainly wasn't intentional.

3. The Help > ... Shortcuts screens weren't updated to reflect the new keyboard shortcuts. (The items shown in Help are manually edited, not generated automatically from the actual assignment.)

4. The shortcuts shown in the menus now uniformly use "Ctrl" on Windows, while the Help > ... Shortcuts screens say "Stg". Someone in the other forum said that German keyboards usually label the key "Stg". This inconsistency comes from manually edited strings and it does not have any affect on the keyboard assignments.

If you want to see or change the text file defining the actual assignments and help strings see here: https://www.lightroomqueen.com/custom-keyboard-shortcuts/

Unfortunately, it appears there still isn't any quality assurance done on the TranslatedStrings file defining keyboard shortcuts.

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I have the same probs. For me this shortcut is essential. So if it would not be fixed, i will use alternate software.

As long as adobe did not fixed the bug, you can change your workspace to english language. Than you can use the shortcut ALT+5 oder ALT+6 to rotate your images. if you're ready, change language again.

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FeedbackCommunityMemberAuthor

Inspiring

Hi Victoria,
thank you for your help. I'll try that until Adobe hopefully fixes the problem.