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July 24, 2019

P: Linear (non-standard) profile in LR Mobile

  • July 24, 2019
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I have been, successfully, trying out linear profiles in LRC. They are very helpful for certain images. The problem is, when the image is posted to LR Mobile.

First, while reviewing the images, I get a pop up message that editing in Mobile will lose settings as it is not a standard profile. That would be ok, as I was just using LRM to display the images. The problem is, the image is not rendered as it was with the original linear profile…it is much brighter and washed out as if another profile (tone curve) had been used.

I had a mix of ‘Adobe Neutral’ and linear profile images. The ‘AN’ images rendered as shown on LRC, the linear were washed out.

LRC 10.4, Win 10
Is this a bug or ‘as designed’?

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jrsforumsAuthor
Inspiring
September 23, 2021

Well, being Apple, the app is up to date.  Problem was with iPadOS 14.8 & 15.

I retried the browser.  It again showed bright/washed out images.  This time I 'flipped' profiles there.  On exiting edit of image (with linear profile 'reapplied'), I got a grey image with circle of moving dots (syncing?).   Image now showed proper look.

So....it seems that LRC desktop is not originally sending(syncing) an image with the linear profile applied.  The iPad mobile app, does not seem to apply and sync to cloud if profile is change to non-standard profile (did not try changing to s5andard profile).  The browser with resync changed view.  
Quite annoying.

Todd Shaner
Legend
September 23, 2021

No, I'm not doing anything differently than what you outlined, but I'm using an Android Samsung tablet. In additon I'm using LR Mobile for Android v6.1 (v6.4 is latest) and can't upgrade further due to Android OS limitation of my Samsung tablet (OS 5.0.2). Android 6.0 and higher is required. It's possible something has changed and/or it's unique to iOS. Perhaps someone landing here with an iOS tablet can try a linear camera profile LR Mobile. The linear profiles at the link you provided are not currently available (server changes in-progress). You can download the Adobe DNG profile editor and change the Tone Curve to linear. Scroll down at the below link to the DNG Profile Editor download and PDF.

 

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/digital-negative.html

 

jrsforumsAuthor
Inspiring
September 23, 2021

Todd, described my workflow.  Are you doing anything different?

jrsforumsAuthor
Inspiring
September 23, 2021

I did not create it, but obtained it from link above.

 

I am using on Apple iPad, but get same problem on browser.

Todd Shaner
Legend
September 23, 2021

I created a linear Adobe Standard profile using the Adobe DNG Profile Editor with below Tone Curve setting and it's displaying properly on my Samsung Note Pro 12.2 Android tablet. How did you create the linear camera profile and what mobile device (s) are you using.

 

jrsforumsAuthor
Inspiring
September 23, 2021

A linear profile is just a replacement for the Adobe supplied profiles (Adobe Color, Camera Standard, etc).  However, it does not have a tone curve applied.  Explained and available here https://tonykuyper.wordpress.com/2021/07/23/the-linear-profile-a-new-beginning-in-light-room-and-camera-raw/

 

once loaded in LR desktop, it shows, along with the other standard profiles in Mobile.

 

the problem seems to be that it does not initially use the assigned profile.  Also, even after one assures it is used, it is not 'sticky'....that is, not used the next time you go to that image.  I have no idea what profile Mobile is defaulting to, but it is one with a tone curve reapplied, which increases the mid and high tones.

 

This is not an icy profile issue.

 

Unless someone can point out some steps I am missing or doing wrong, I am guessing an Adobe bug.

JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 23, 2021

OK, so the initial problem was a missing profile, but something else causes the bleached out view. I have no idea what that is. You talk about a 'linear profile' all the time. Can you explain what you mean with that? Camera profiles are not icc-profiles, but as mobile devices are not color managed, a very different camera profile may cause a problem that normally would be dealt with through color management. Just a thought...

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
jrsforumsAuthor
Inspiring
September 22, 2021

Johan....well, I followed your instructions to load profile into LR (cloud) desktop.  That removed the error message, but not the problem.

JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 22, 2021

Well, that is indeed a different problem. In your initial message you say "I get a pop up message that editing in Mobile will lose settings as it is not a standard profile". I figured that you had a missing profile issue, so I explained how to get custom LrC profiles uploaded to Lightroom mobile. Now you say you do not get an error message...

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
jrsforumsAuthor
Inspiring
September 22, 2021

Forgot to mention.  There is no error message.  Proper linear profile is present for image with exact name as loaded in LR & LRC.

 

Brower image has same brighter, washed out look.