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Inspiring
April 26, 2018

P: Log file of changes made (for privacy protection laws)

  • April 26, 2018
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As required by the new European privacy protection laws (thanks a bunch, data miners), photographers are required BY LAW to record every single change made to an image.

This stems from future video surveillance regulations, but obviously someone didn't finish thinking there and just generally applied that, indeed very important, regulation to digital imaging in general.

Now, we could, of course, spend 95% of our client's time typing our logs, but maybe it would be easier if you could implement a log file like in Photoshop. Otherwise, I could no longer use the development module in LR realistically or, basically any functions that alter the image or any of its data.

So please, is there a way to work this out, until thes laws are being refined? It's slightly more than a month now.

27 replies

PaulFBarrett
Known Participant
April 26, 2018
I'm not at the right computer to look.  Is there a comments field where you can add notes about what you did?  Because that might be a helluva lot more material than a bunch of operation logs.  Just thinking out loud.
Inspiring
April 26, 2018
@ Just Shot Me are you aware of the severity of financial punishment that awaits? Up until now the maximum penalty was € 35.000. They changed it to 20 Million or 4% of worldwide revenue, whatever would be higher.

Still, I just want to know if logging would be possible.

@129856 I am aware of the technicalities. I just hope the develop settings would suffice. That would mostly solve the problem. But, of course, as nobody thought this through, there's no clear description, according to my info. So, if somebody wants to get to you, they'll find a way.
Inspiring
April 26, 2018
Yes, they were, especially in the general business convention, trying to sell advisory services. But not at the photographer event. He was plainly sorry to leave us with a pile of crap 😉
PaulFBarrett
Known Participant
April 26, 2018
I agree - see my comment about material changes above
Adobe Employee
April 26, 2018
Lr is a non-destructive image editor. On the one hand, you have your source image, and on the other hand you have the develop settings (such as XMP sidecar) that describes the type of image adjustments and other metadata that one has added to produce the final output image. Lr catalog also records the history steps so provides sort of auditable tracks. 

When you export the images out of Lightroom, there is an export option to set the metadata export options to "All Metadata", that will include a copy of the develop settings in XMP in the result rendered image, such as JPEG.
PaulFBarrett
Known Participant
April 26, 2018
I'll bet there was a healthy dose of scaring the bejesus out of the audience to generate some lawyers' revenue too. 🙂

There's a whole debate to unfold on what is a material change.  Not here though.  And not now
Just Shoot Me
Legend
April 26, 2018
Ok but if I take a photo of someone, with or without their permission in a public space, and then sharpen, adjust exposure, WB, contrast and the like and do some spot removal and then post it someplace I can't see how any of that would constitute Changing the image or why I would need to document any of those steps.
Personally I would continue doing what I have done for years and if for some reason was called out on it I would deal with it at that time.

IMHO Adjusting and image is completely different from Changing it.
Hope you get an answer you can live with.
Inspiring
April 26, 2018
I think there was at least half an hour of extra discussion 1 hor after the event had officially ended on how to achieve thos - utterly ridiculous - requirements. I hope the chamber of commerce didn't hire an idiot to misinform people, which, of course, can always be the case, and i doubt, just as pretty much anyone else there did, this would even be applied by the Data Security officials. They're more interested in the safeguarding of personal data and appearance in connection with the oh-so-feared political, religious and sexual affiliations.

But we were clearly warned about people with an extremely overblown ego and right awareness (of whom I know a few..) who will sink their teeth in until you're legally dead, just for satisfaction and money (which I've also personally witnessed somebody do). Also, we were warned about potential competitors out to bring businesses down. Primarily, this seems to be a mixture between laws to-be-revised and what other people make of them.
john beardsworth
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 26, 2018
I am not accusing you of trolling, but these things are easily misinterpreted and blown out of proportion. Anyway, as I have told you, LR already records changes to images in a format that can be read.
Inspiring
April 26, 2018
You are using LR to change an image to a version which you intend to publish. Pricavy laws are not about faking an image, but for protection of the depicted person's privacy. Video surveillance must not be altered or tampered with, and if you do, you need to provide every step of alteration. According to the info I got, these rules were, as stated above, applied to all sorts of digital imaging.

Again, I just asked for a way to protocol what I do in LR. If this isn't possible in a satisfactory fashion, I'll have to, at least temporarily, stop using it, or restrict its use to presets that are easy to reproduce and document. That's all I need to know for now.