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P: Print - Printer options - Colour Matching is not sticky

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August 18, 2024
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Since I updated to MacOS 14.6, printing from Lr Classic to my Epson SCP800 has beeen a nightmare. The printer driver seems to have become completely unreliable.

1. When I select a profile in Lr, the printer driver has color matching set to Epson Color Controls, and not (as it should) to Color Sync. Sometimes the driver opens with Color Sync correctly set, but then changing any other setting (eg, paper type) causes it to revert to Epson Color Controls.

2. When I make changes to the print settings (eg, changing paper type) and save a preset, the change is not present in the preset. This problem does NOT seem to occur when using the print driver from Apple Preview.

I have

-- reinstalled the Epson drivers

-- deleted and readded my printer

-- deleted my Lr preferences (but I'm confused about this because moving the com.adobe.LightroomClassicCC7.plist file out of ~/Library/Preferences doesn't seem to change anything in my Lr setup, even if I restart my machine to clear caches--and no, I don't have "store preferences with catalog" set).

My current workaround is to

-- set Printer Manages Colors in Lr

-- set the paper ICC profile in the driver using Color Sync manually

-- reset the paper type every time I print, since the preset can't seem to save it

It seems unlikely that I'm the only person experiencing these problems but I'm surprised to see nobody else mention them. Any advice would be very welcome.

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johnrellis

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In the Print module, I used to click the Printer... button, make sure all the desired settings were set, and click Print. But with my LR 14.1.1 / Mac OS 15.2 / Epson XP-15000, when I clicked Printer ... > Printer Options > Color Matching, ColorSync was always unselected and greyed out.

I had to fiddle quite a bit to get ColorSync properly enabled with the correct paper profile. @DanielBoston's recipe from 14.6 didn't work for me. Here's the song and dance that I took that seems to have worked for me:

1. In the Print module, click Print Settings... (lower left) > Printer Options > Color Matching.

2. Select ColorSync and Profile: Automatic. Click OK.

3. Set other desired settings under Printer Options.

4. Click Save.

5. In the Print Job panel, set Profile: <desired paper profile>.

6. Click Printer... (lower right), and then in the Print settings window, click Printer Options to verify ColorSync is enabled, Click OK (NOT Cancel).

7. Click Print in the Print settings window.

Sure wish Apple and Adobe would get this straightened out.

tome26729756

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I have a similar problem, with Sonoma 14.6.1, Epson SC P-600, where I wish to print using Epson Advanced B&W photo, with fine adjustment, Printer Manages Color, and custom settings that (normally) give very precise B&W without colour casts, on a range of papers). Printer driver defaults to Premium Photo Glossy (which I do not use) and AccuPhoto HD after every print, requiring reset - and custom settings are not applied.

If I create a new version of a correct setting in Preview, LrC will recognise and apply it - but defaults to an incorrect 'Last Used' setting afterwards.

This is new behaviour since Sonoma 14.6.1 and affects both LrC and Photoshop 2024.

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photoartbycarolyn725

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Trying to Print in Lighroom Classic 13.5 and Sonoma 14.5, I can't get the Color Sync option to show available. It is always greyed out no matter what I do.

Shipp

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@Vidhya S thank you this is absolutely killing my workflow now. When can we expect an update?

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Alissandra31634768pmnx

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I am having similar problems with Photoshop and my Canon Pixma Pro-200 after the 14.6.1 update. It doesn't seem to matter what printer or application you are using, the stability of printer settings is wildly problematic. Any help or workaround would be deeply appreciated.

Shipp

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Same, I'm experiencing unpredicatble behaviour with Epson SCP800 and Mac 14.6

Rikk Flohr_Photography

Adding @Vidhya S Bug and updating status

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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jlehet

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This week I wasted an enormous amount of time, a bunch of ink, and some expensive paper with this. In checking out various soft proofing options, when I checked "Preserve RGB Numbers" in the photoshop soft proofing of a file I saw, "This is exactly what my print looks like." (It sucks). This seems to mean that Lightroom is completely ignoring the paper profile and instead is sending straight RGB values to the printer. I'm runniing Sonoma 14.6.1. I hadn't printed in a while, so I reinstalled the printer driver several times, etc. I really like to print from Lightroom and not Photoshop and certainlyl not Apple Preview. Or I would like to print from Lightroom if it worked.

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jlehet

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I should add I'm trying to print to an Epson Surecolor P7000 with of course the latest driver.

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DanielBostonAuthor

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Another observation that suggests there's some very screwed up code running here. The behavior I observed above (in which checking color matching and print setting shows different values depending on which you check first) only occurs if after you check the value you click "cancel". If you click "ok", the values seem to be stable. This is bizarre, because it should of course make no difference if you haven't changed the setting.

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DanielBostonAuthor

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After some experimentation, I seem to have found a reasonable workaround:

1. Create and change presets only in Apple Preview, even if you use them in Lr.

2. When you examine a print driver setting in Lr, always click OK and not Cancel if you don't want to change it.

3. Never click on the Color Matching dialog: that will switch away from ColorSync. To check color matching settings, use Printer Settings | Advanced Color Management instead.

I now suspect that my problem wasn't the MacOS update and that I just checked Color Matching and hadn't done so for a while. And then I reinstalled the Epson driver, and Lr won't let you create presets, so that led to all these problems.

Hopefully Adobe will fix this mess soon.