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February 5, 2017

P: Problem saving metadata if certain adjustment brushing is present (often with guided upright)

  • February 5, 2017
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Hi,

I've been having problems saving metadata under certain conditions in 2015.8..  LR will say saving metadata, but the badge will come back on after.

So far, I've been able to narrow down that it seems to happen most often when an adjustment brush is used along with guided upright.
 
The problem comes in when I try to replicate it in photos that are ok with it.
On problem photos - copying, then deleting the problem adjustment brush will allow it to save ok.  But if I re-paste that copied brush, it wont save again.  Even more puzzling is that if that if there are more than one brush, then it seems to only have a problem with ONE of them.  And again, I haven't been able to determine a pattern as of yet..  It took me quite a while to even narrow it down to an adjustment brush issue, recently.

Also of note is that it will have problems saving even if there are snapshots with the offending brush, even if the 'current' doesn't include the problem brush.

Also important here, is that just turning off upright won't fix it - only removing the offending brush will..

Sooo, therefore it might not even be a problem collision with guided upright! ...  It's just that I notice the problem occurs most often when guided upright is involved.

The only way I've been able to work around this is to create virtual copies with the offending brush (and the other settings).  However, then I lose the belt-and-suspenders backing up of settings - which I find very important to me.

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    Victoria Bampton LR Queen
    Community Expert
    Victoria Bampton LR QueenCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    February 10, 2017
    > now I'm even more puzzled why Adobe would set the forum up to strip metadata like that..??

    It's third party software - not something in Adobe's control.
    Victoria - The Lightroom Queen
    chain569
    chain569Author
    Participating Frequently
    February 10, 2017
    Ah,  I was worried they might not come through.  But now I'm even more puzzled why Adobe would set the forum up to strip metadata like that..??

    Anyways, here is the jpg file - I reset it before exporting this time.  So snapshots shouldn't look so odd.

    I used a Box account..  First time I ever used it like this - so hopefully it allows download.

    https://app.box.com/s/3euitmj1ti164gf7d1mgteo2klavc7qn
    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    February 10, 2017
    The forum software strips all the metadata from the photo.  Could you please upload the original problem photo to Dropbox or similar and post the sharing link here?  

    There's been a steady stream of occasional complaints over the years about incorrect metadata status.  Some of the causes have been resolved in earlier versions, but clearly not all.  Unfortunately, the only way it will ever get fixed if users can provide a precise recipe for reproducing the problem(s).  
    chain569
    chain569Author
    Participating Frequently
    February 10, 2017
    Just tried that..

    The issue still persists.

    This is a similar issue that has existed ever since maybe LR4 or LR5.  And perhaps it was because of a brush back then too, but I never narrowed it down that far.  That issue seemed to disappear for quite a while, until recently.  However, it should also be noted that I've only recently started to do more brush-type work.

    Back then the workaround was to do a 'read' after a 'save' metadata and it would be fine from then on.  The metadata was actually saved.  But that doesn't work for the current [for-sure] brush related issue.

    I just did some testing - saving one out as a lossy DNG, adding the snapshot of the offending brush, then removing and reimporting.  It looks like in this case, the metadata is also actually saved..  But doing a 'read' doesn't resolve it's status this time around.

    It looks like this board won't accept [even lossy] DNG's - on top of a 2MB limit.  So I saved out and re-imported as a size-limited jpg.  The base rendering here was WITH the offending brush kept in when exporting.  Also included is an original  snapshot without the brush - and the snapshot WITH the offending brush.  It still doesn't register the 'save metadata' operation even as a jpg.

    (Keep in mind that this is an old crappy test shot, and since it was exported WITH the offending brush as current - that the snapshots are going to look really really weird. 😉  Hopefully they still come across through this method.)


    Rikk Flohr_Photography
    Community Manager
    Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
    February 7, 2017
    Chris, 

    Have you attempted a preference reset to see if it makes the problematic brush - metadata save operation behave as expected?

    1. Close Lightroom
    2. Hold down [Alt/Opt]+[Shift] and relaunch Lightroom.
    3. Overwrite the Preference file when prompted to do so.
    4. Close Lightroom.
    5. Restart your computer. 

    Does the issue still present?
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