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The Keeper of the Garden
The Keeper of the Garden
Inspiring
November 19, 2022

P: Published Folders renamed does not rename in Finder on macOS Ventura 13.0.1

  • November 19, 2022
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LR Classic 12.0.1

macOS Ventura 13.0.1

 

Steps to reproduce:

  1. Create a Published Folder in a Hard Drive Publish Service.
  2. Add one or more photos to that folder.
  3. Publish the photos.
  4. Check the name and contents of the folder in Finder (everything is fine at this point).
  5. Rename the Published Folder in LR Classic.

 

Expected Result: The original folder has been renamed by LR Classic in Finder as well.

Actual Result: The original folder has not been renamed in Finder!

 

Additional Remark: When re-publishing the photos of the renamed Published Folder, LR Classic creates a new folder with those photos in Finder, and leaves the original folder (the one with the original name in LR Classic) alone.  

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    The Keeper of the Garden
    The Keeper of the GardenAuthor
    Inspiring
    November 29, 2022

    I don't want to sound impolite, but "as-designed behaviour" would mean that I am lying when I say that this started to happen with the latest version of LrC on macOS Ventura 13.0.1 and never happened before. I use this feature very often and it always worked flawlessly. The Hard Drive Publish Service of LrC was always able to create, rename, delete, add photos to, and remove photos from any folder in the user's directory,  just as it is when simply using the Library folder features and options. I suspect that the cause lies in a change in how macOS Ventura allows or disallows LrC to rename and delete folders and photos within folders from within its Hard Drive Publish Service. 

     

    Perhaps I should check the following also: Is LrC still able to rename and delete the folders that are managed by its Library module? I suppose it is because in that case there would be lots of users reporting about it. I usually don't create, touch, or rename any folder after import and as far as I see, LrC does still create a new folder (named and arranged by date) whenever I import photos. But I will go and check now to see what happens in Finder when I rename a folder from within LrC's Folder panel in the Library module. 

    Rikk Flohr_Photography
    Community Manager
    Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
    Community Manager
    November 29, 2022

    I can reproduce this but am checking with the team on as-designed behavior. 

    Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
    GoldingD
    GoldingD
    Legend
    November 27, 2022

    Ok, the feature you are using may be obscure to most of us. Yep, in these community pages you can learn something new (at least new to me). Reading your posts over again, and accomplishing some online research (via google) makes me think you are referring to the process in the following link:

     

    https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/help/export-hard-drive-using-publish.html

     

    Correct??

     

    The Keeper of the Garden
    The Keeper of the GardenAuthor
    Inspiring
    November 27, 2022

    Yes!! And that feature is very useful if you want to keep track within LR Classic of photos that you publish to social media or other websites that don't have a Publish Service plugin for LR Classic. I use it all the time. And now it's "broken" because when you rename a folder within that Hard Drive Publish Service, the change is no longer reflected by the Finder of macOS Ventura.

    GoldingD
    GoldingD
    Legend
    November 27, 2022

    Following reply has been edited (my bad)

     

    Ok, my first test on my Windows workstation.(Windows 10)

     

    • I can create the publish service to hard drive.
    • I can see that hard drive folder via File Explorer
    • I can creeate the publish folder in LrC
    • I can see the publsh folder as a subfolder to the above in File Explorer
    • I can place images into the publish folder (in LrC) and I can publish
    • I can see those resultant expoted images via File Explorer in the publish folder
    • I can rename the publish folder
    • In File Eplorer, I see both the previous publish folder and the new publish folder, Folder not actually renamed, a new folder created instead.
    • I do not see the images in the new folder
    • In LrC, Publish Service, I mark the images in the publish folder to be republished. I publish, and in File Explorer, they appear.

     

     

    Followup, on MACBookPro (12.6.1) The same

     

    • I can create the publish service to hard drive.
    • I can see that hard drive folder via Finder
    • I can creeate the publish folder in LrC
    • I can see the publsh folder as a subfolder to the above in Finder
    • I can place images into the publish folder (in LrC) and I can publish
    • I can see those resultant expoted images via Finder in the publish folder
    • I can rename the publish folder
    • In Finder, I see both the previous publish folder and the new publish folder, Folder not actually renamed, a new folder created instead.
    • I do not see the images in the new folder
    • In LrC, Publish Service, I mark the images in the publish folder to be republished. I publish, and in Finder, they appear.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The Keeper of the Garden
    The Keeper of the GardenAuthor
    Inspiring
    November 27, 2022

    Is this issue now acknowledged as being a bug?

    GoldingD
    GoldingD
    Legend
    November 19, 2022

    Please post a screen capture of where/what you are attempting. Published Folder seems wrong. Their is the Folders Panel in the Library module, and their is the Publish Services, what one are you in?

     

    The Keeper of the Garden
    The Keeper of the GardenAuthor
    Inspiring
    November 19, 2022

    The issue cannot be captured in a screen shot. You seem not to be aware of the fact that in every single "Hard Drive" Publish Service several "Published Folders" can be created. Every single one of those "Published Folders" is basically just a folder nested within the parent folder that is defined when creating the Hard Drive Publish Service. 

    What I am trying to do is a normal thing to do, and just one of the features that Published Folders allow you to do: create them, delete them, or rename them. You can even create Published Folder Sets and Smart Published Folders. All of that works fine, but since upgrading to macOS Ventura and/or updating to the latest version of LR Classic, renaming a Published Folder is no longer reflected in Finder (IOW the OS seems not to allow LR to change folder names outside the LR app). 

    Rikk Flohr_Photography
    Community Manager
    Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
    Community Manager
    November 19, 2022

    "Rename the Published Folder in LR Classic."

     

    Can you describe step-by-step how you do this?

    Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
    The Keeper of the Garden
    The Keeper of the GardenAuthor
    Inspiring
    November 19, 2022

    To rename the Published Folder, I right-click on its name and one of the options appearing is to rename it.

     

    FYI: I already tried solving the issue by resetting the access privileges of Lightroom Classic in System Settings concerning Files and Folders and concerning Full Disk Access. Plus a restart of my iMac. No change.

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