P: When changing presets the profile resets back to Adobe standard, even if profile isn't checke

I have presets with huge B&W mix and all are 100% the same as before, just without this accidentally changing to color when its combined with other presets. 

Adobe Monochrome profile was bad and unusable for me, even after some matching experiments... you can choose BW1 or what you want (2, 3, 4,..etc), final result is the same with 0% slider - it matches my old profile*  🙂

*i hope i am correct, i have tested it on just 5 different profiles

Thanks to you all for reporting the issue. We are working on the fix. 

Regards,
Ganesh

@ondrej the tactic you describe does allow the file to remain black and white.

However, it appears to reset all the black and white sliders, despite those sliders not being defined when you preset is saved.

UPDATED. You are correct. If you make a preset for only exposure and select the treatment to also save BW1 into the preset at 0% it works.

UPDATE 2: However if the prest you before is an older presets that defines tradicional black and white settings and as such applies the Monochrome profile. It will convert to the new profle at 0% but will reset all sliders to zero in the process.

@ondrej the tactic you describe does allow the file to remain black and white.

However, it appears to reset all the black and white sliders, despite those sliders not being defined when you preset is saved. If you make a presets for only exposure and select the treatment to also save BW1 into the preset at 0%. The slider in the B&W module reverts to zero when it's applied.

Yea almost any combination of presets except a preset that itself defines black and white conversion will revert the image to color. So a RAW file changed to Adobe  Stanard B&W or a JPEG is to Monochromeafter applying a black and white conversion preset. Then apply any other mod preset like one that only adjusts exposure and it reverts back to a color profile like Adobe standard.

If the classic profile Camera Profile is defined in the same Exposure presets, it does remain black and white but all black and white sliders revert to zero.

It's not hard to reproduce this. The only way bugs this big get thru is when developers don't bother to test their work or correct the problems that arise.

B&W Preset needs to by "resaved" - this solves the problem (for now):
1. use one of your old B&W presets (Adobe Standard BW profile)
2. change profile to one of 17 profiles in BW section
3. set amount of profile effect to zero (0%)
4. update your preset

After this works LR fine with my B&W pictures combined with other presets

Thanks, Matt! I'll add your comment to the bug report.

Rick,

Confirming that I am seeing the same:

Initial application of any "Legacy" B&W Profiles and subsequent application of Any Preset (except presets in any of the three "Classic B&W" groups) causes profile to immediately revert to color version.

I can work around it, for now, but certainly hope this gets fixed sooner, rather than later.

Thanks.

It happens on both of my computers with Win10 - old PC i5 4670 (2013) and a i5 7200U laptop (2017)
Presets (starting with numbers) from 7.2 are mixed, not alphabetical and presets on the left side changes treatment from B&W "Adobe Standard BW" to color "Adobe Standard" even when its just "sharpening" (or dehaze, vigneting, lens correction,...)

Only "Adobe Monochrome" profile stays as it is, without change. But it is totally different from original "Adobe Standard BW" - a diferent BW mix and contrast.

Really hoping Adobe pay attention to these bugs, seeing a lot of disgruntled professional photographers in forums and groups now.
But there is another big one, what have Adobe done to the API to prevent midi controllers from working? This now ruins my whole work flow!
Only one preset can be applied. If another is applied it resets the previous one!

Example:
preset one has exposure +3 ONLY
preset two has clarity +20 ONLY
If they are pressed in order then preset one, exposure, is rest to zero!

I have simplified this example. If preset one contains a lot of settings then they are all rest to zero when preset two is pressed. Making editing with midi controllers impossible and its the only way to get through hundreds of images in one day.

Adobe, PLEASE fix this. It's urgent!