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July 22, 2011

P: Wrong folder names organizing by date when using camera USB

  • July 22, 2011
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When importing from a camera connected to USB (at least for a Canon EOS 40D Firmware 1.1.1 in my case), lightroom generates wrong folder names when organizing folders by date, at least for the "2011/2011-07-22" format (I guess it's the same for the other formats). 

I use Lightroom 3.4.1 on Windows XP 32 Bit SP 3 and my time zone is CET+DST (Paris, Berlin). I shot six photos an hour apart around midnight CET+DST from 21:30 on Thursday to 02:30 on friday (I changed the camera's time for that) and got the following folder/file structure using a USB connection to the camera: 

2011\2011-07-21\20110721-213022-IMG_0314.CR2 
2011\2011-07-22\20110721-223033-IMG_0315.CR2 <<< wrong folder 
2011\2011-07-22\20110721-233041-IMG_0316.CR2 <<< wrong folder 
2011\2011-07-22\20110722-003049-IMG_0317.CR2 
2011\2011-07-22\20110722-013055-IMG_0318.CR2 
2011\2011-07-22\20110722-023102-IMG_0319.CR2 

Clearly, the two marked files are in the wrong folder. Note that the file naming itself (date and time) is absolutely correct! 

When I import the same six photos using a card reader from the CF card, I get the correct structure: 

2011\2011-07-21\20110721-213022-IMG_0314.CR2 
2011\2011-07-21\20110721-223033-IMG_0315.CR2 <<< now correct folder 
2011\2011-07-21\20110721-233041-IMG_0316.CR2 <<< now correct folder 
2011\2011-07-22\20110722-003049-IMG_0317.CR2 
2011\2011-07-22\20110722-013055-IMG_0318.CR2 
2011\2011-07-22\20110722-023102-IMG_0319.CR2 

This seems to be some "time zone / daylight savings time bug" affecting all photos made from two hours before midnight until just before midnight (my local time is UTC plus two hours) - but why only for camera USB and not for card reader? I didn't test it for a date that has no DST, but I would bet that it would affect photos from *one* hour before midnight, then. 

P.S. The wrong folder structure also already shows in the folder preview in the import dialog. Here is the wrong structure using USB to camera: 

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...and the correct one using a card reader: 

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Participating Frequently
October 6, 2013
I wondered why all these great photographers use Lightroom but never complain about this longstanding bug as they travel the world. Then I realized that it was a Windows only bug and they all use Macs..
Inspiring
October 6, 2013
Well it's Oct. 2013, more than 2 years since this thread was posted (2011-07-21) and in my LR4.4 and LR5 above comment, this issue has still not been resolved.
Please don't tell me to add another step to my workflow, (Use a card reader), work out the issue and fix it.

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Participating Frequently
July 1, 2013
It still fails with Lightroom 5 when in the ICT (UTC+7) time zone and pictures are taken in the evening.
Inspiring
February 17, 2013
You can still import straight from your iPhone, just don't rename them during the import. Instead, rename them once the import has finished via Library > Rename photo.
Inspiring
February 17, 2013
I can confirm that with LR4.3 this issue still occurs. My workaround is that I still import the photos straight from the camera, but without renaming them during the import. Once import is finished, I rename them via Library > Rename photo. UTC is disregarded, as it should and time shows up correctly.
Participating Frequently
February 14, 2013
I have seen quite few anomalies in LR4.3 and LR4.x with how time stamps are used. I live in Australia - this is important because the bugs are around time zone adjustment (I think)

Here is one specific problem: I have a Nikon D90, I attached the camera to my computer and select import using LR4.3. The photo to be imported is taken at (Time stamp on camera) 31 Jan 2013, 18:26:45. My camera is set to GMT +11 hrs which is the summer time for the area I'm in (ie the 11 hrs includes daylight saving). When the thumb nail is shown before I hit the import button , if I mouse over the thumbnail, the time is shown as 1 Feb 2013 05:26:46. So 11 hrs and 1 sec more. LR also tells me it will put the import into the 2013/2 folder which it needed to create (todate I only have 2013/1 folders) Then I import using LR to rename the filename using the date time. It does this using the correct date time ie 20130131_18-26-45 but puts the import into the 2013/2 folder.

The 11hrs and 1 sec suggests (ie the extra second suggests) it's getting a timestamp from somewhere else and then adding the GMT adjustment. All time fields in the metadata shown in LR4 are all 18:26:45.

BTW - other problems I have are the otherway around where LR4 is using GMT as my local time - to fix some of these i can go into Edit capture time (don't touch/change anything) which shows the correct time (ie GMT+11) and execute. It appears that LR4 is picking up different timestamps in different bits of code

areohbee
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January 26, 2013
At the risk of reiterating what's already been stated above: consider getting and using a card reader for the interim.

It may take Adobe a while to fix this ;-}

Cheers,
Rob
areohbee
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January 26, 2013
At the risk of stating the obvious: consider getting and using a card reader for the interim.

It may take Adobe a while to fix this ;-}

Cheers,
Rob
Inspiring
January 25, 2013
Also experience this bug with LR 4.3 and a Nikon D7000 connected via USB. (Currently don't own a Card Reader)
Camera and computer are configured to Australian time zone.

Just posting because I would like to keep an eye on this thread.
Participating Frequently
December 10, 2012
Hi Jeffrey,

As mentioned in the comments above, you can work around this issue by importing from a card reader, or the hard drive, rather than from the camera directly.

Thanks,
Ben